"...one crew, a Starfleet crew." Really...WHY?

[Guy Gardener]

I understand that George Washington was one of the worlds first Guerilla terrorists, and the English crown was really not into humouring such childish behaviour with anything less than a good stabbing.

 

[Anwar]

No, the Feds didn't put an end to Cardassian illegalities. Both the Cardassians and the Maquis continued attacking one-another's colonists all the time.

Which, frankly, made little sense given what happened at the end of "The Maquis" but I guess they had to continue that plot somehow...

To the Maquis, those worlds were their homes, and the Federation had no right to hand over those worlds. To their minds, that's betrayal. That's why the Maquis were separatists -- their ideology was what we would probably today call "extreme individualism," like the people who want their states to secede from the U.S. today.

Except they weren't "given away", the colonists were informed they could stay on their worlds but would no longer be Fed citizens. They AGREED to all that and then turned right around and started blaming the Feds for everything when it turned out to be less than paradise. It wasn't like they were forced to evacuate their worlds.

So, yeah, the Maquis, by definition, do have a grudge against the Federation and its Starfleet.

They freely chose to stay and negotiated that with the Feds in the first place. They'd have to put some of the blame on themselves if they were going to justify Fed hate.

Now, were they right? I don't know that I think they were right or justified. But that is what they believed.

And if explored, they'd pretty much have to get over it which wouldn't do much dramatically.

Why should she continue to run it as a Starfleet ship when Starfleet wasn't there anymore? It's as rational a question as, "Why should they continue to be Maquis when the DMZ isn't there?"

Because it's a Fleet ship and Fleet philosophy/ideology is better suited to their situation. I'm not saying they should've given up their Maquis ID completely, but I do think it would've been dumb to keep up hostilities.

Would that have been "losing" those characters?

Well, yeah it WOULD have been losing those characters if the Maquis wanted off VOY so much or were planning on hijacking the ship all the time (which likely means killing the VOY senior staff).

And that's not uncommon in separatist rhetoric. It doesn't change the fact that separatism exists as a real ideology.

And if they wanted it to work for VOY, they needed to have better defined the Maquis beyond basic separatism. The Maquis were just a flawed concept from inception to end.

They believed in not getting killed by Cardassians, we never learnt just WHAT the Maquis Way was in the first place.

Colonial independence.

Which still doesn't amount to much when you consider that aside from the DMZ thing they had no differences in procedure or treatment from the Feds. No unfair representation or taxation or whatever.

More work needed to be put into these people.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Duh.

Anything with any gristle we have about the Maquis is from their flare ups on DS9 and even TNG.

 

[Anwar]

Uh-huh, they should've better developed them as having a separate ideology and politics on those shows. Their early appearances were meant to create them in the first place.