OMG first shot of the new bridge!!!

[Tiberius Jim]

You know, I never noticed how close the captain's chair was to the helm/nav console of the original bridge. Poor Sulu and Chekov literally had Kirk breathing down their necks.

I'm a bit mixed on my feelings about the new bridge, but I like that it is larger and more brightly lit. I'll have to join the "Waiting to see the whole thing before I make judgment" camp.

 

[sojourner]

and a wide open shot of the USS Kelvin:
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/1176/#photo1
where are the nacelles?
saucer looks good though. Very Movie era in design what with the blue deflector (at least I hope that is the deflector)

 

[ST-One]

and a wide open shot of the USS Kelvin:
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/1176/#photo1
where are the nacelles?
saucer looks good though. Very Movie era in design what with the blue deflector (at least I hope that is the deflector)

Look under the saucer for the nacelle (yes, only one)

 

[RoJoHen]

I wish there was more red. That turbolift door should definitely be red.

In the original pilot, the bridge had a very silver/black color scheme. The door was gray.

Them's fightin' words.

In reality, I'm not worried about it. I have no real opinion of this new bridge yet. I want to see it from a few more angles before I judge.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I personally love the new bridge. Sure, I'm not a fan of the lights in your face workstations, circuit boards, or the podium thing, but it has a bright and most importantly, vibrant look to it. Trek's sets in the past may have been warm, colorful at times, but they've always had a bit of a muddy look to them. This is new. This is good.

 

[JuanBolio]

I can tell you, because I am aboard Air Craft Carriers alot, and sometimes subs, they are not that brightly lit. The bridge in the XI pictures look nothing like a real ship

Well, Starfleet is not the Navy, and a starship is not a naval warship.

where are the nacelles?

Look under the saucer for the nacelle (yes, only one)

Maybe, maybe not. That upper cylinder might not be an engine hull.

 

[Capn Flukie]

You know, I never noticed how close the captain's chair was to the helm/nav console of the original bridge. Poor Sulu and Chekov literally had Kirk breathing down their necks.

There's a (I think) MADtv skit that did just that.

 

[johnhazard]

and a wide open shot of the USS Kelvin:
http://movies.yahoo.com/photos/movie-stills/gallery/1176/#photo1
where are the nacelles?
saucer looks good though. Very Movie era in design what with the blue deflector (at least I hope that is the deflector)

Look under the saucer for the nacelle (yes, only one)

That's the nacelle up top- you can see the fan blades like the nacelle in the teaser- and the deflector under the saucer. ONE NACELLE. Further crapping on Trek tradition.
(I know, I'm crazy for caring)

Did any of you really buy that crap about this not being a reboot?

As for the bridge, it's a hideous mess.

Spotlights in everyone's faces? Printed circuit decals? What are those things on that girl's hostess table- bar code scanners?

from the EW article:
"it's now blazingly white and glistening with light and glass.
Apple Store, anyone?
''People would joke, 'Where's the Genius Bar?''' says Abrams, somewhat defensively. ''To me, the bridge is so cool, it makes the Apple Store look uncool.''

Blech.

Abrams, who is a Star WARS fan, said he wanted to make Star Trek more Star Wars.
The ONLY thing Star Wars has over Trek is the visuals, brilliant production design that begins YEARS before the movie comes out.
The visual design of Trek has been seriously lacking since the end of the original and innovative first series. Galaxy Quest was a better looking Trek movie than any of the real Trek movies. The Kirk era movies weren't bad (except the uniforms in the first movie), but TNG was seriously hampered by it's TV budget, and the production design since then has only gone downhill, hitting rock bottom in Nemesis.
It looks like visually this movie is going to be a huge step BACKWARD, and I don't mean in a nostalgic way. I mean they rushed this movie into production and it shows. I really think they just went to Sharper Image, grabbed a bunch of crap, and threw it all together.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I don't see how a single nacelle ship changes everything. In Best of Both Worlds, we saw a 1 nacelled Federation ship and a 3-nacelled one as well. 1-naclled destroyers showed up on monitors all the time in the TMP-era films. Treknology is malleable, because most of it is BS anyways. The "Even nacelle" law only exists because GR was mad at Franz Joseph.

 

[JuanBolio]

You know, I never noticed how close the captain's chair was to the helm/nav console of the original bridge. Poor Sulu and Chekov literally had Kirk breathing down their necks.

I prefer the look from The Cage. I kinda prefer the captain being close up - gives him a feel of more direct control over the direction and operation of the ship.

 

[Jefferies]

^^ Even though that schematic is a representation of the oldest set design in the history of Trek it still manages to look professional and elegant. A shame they lost sight of these qualities when they designed the new bridge.

 

[JuanBolio]

^^ Even though that schematic is a representation of the oldest set design in the history of Trek it still manages to look professional and elegant. A shame they lost sight of these qualities when they designed the new bridge.

I disagree - I think many of the elements of the new bridge reflect updated versions of the Cage bridge. I wish they'd stuck a little closer in areas like dimensions and lighting, but overall I find the new design most intriguing.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Yes, everything is much closer together on the TOS set than most people realize - it looks bigger on screen than it actually is.

The new version is larger and more practically sized. The idea of posting that silly grainy shot of the old bridge next to a shot of this new one as if we're going to obviously prefer the silly old plywood set is...well, silly in itself.

The new version is a really nice elaboration of the concept, given four decades and particularly given the fact that the original set has been imitated over and over in every Federation starship we saw in Trek 1.0.

It's time for a real rethinking and redesign of this set. Past time. Way past time. Good going, Abrams.

 

[Admiral2]

That my friends is what we call a "reboot".

Still not buying it. Costume and set changes don't constitute a reboot.

 

[Kelso]

I think it looks great.

 

[Squiggy]

That my friends is what we call a "reboot".

Still not buying it. Costume and set changes don't constitute a reboot.

It's part of a reboot.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Nope. Deal me out, I ain't playin'

Don't be a stickler. This was the Enterprise when she was first launched -

Are we talking the same Enterprise? The one launched in 2245, when Kirk was thirteen years old?

There's a difference between being open minded and empty minded.

 

[RoJoHen]

That my friends is what we call a "reboot".

Still not buying it. Costume and set changes don't constitute a reboot.

It's part of a reboot.

I'd say there is a huge difference between a reboot and a redesign.

 

[USS Mariner]

Nope. Deal me out, I ain't playin'

Don't be a stickler. This was the Enterprise when she was first launched -

Are we talking the same Enterprise? The one launched in 2245, when Kirk was thirteen years old?

There's a difference between being open minded and empty minded.

Please come over to Trek XI. There's a topic over there that needs half a brain.

 

[JuanBolio]

Are we talking the same Enterprise? The one launched in 2245, when Kirk was thirteen years old?

There's a difference between being open minded and empty minded.

*shrugs* They might've messed with that... but it certainly takes place at an earlier time than TOS. Maybe in the 2250's. The bridge in that era looked a lot more like the one we see here than the design from the series did. Bridges swap out, anyway.

I don't see the need to hold the design aesthetic here up against that from classic TOS. You're comparing apples to oranges. Its a different thing, in a different time.

Please come over to Trek XI. There's a topic over there that needs half a brain.

Are you suggesting that anyone with a different opinion than you on what this new design means for the quality and authenticity of the film is unintelligent? That's a very unintelligent thing to say.