Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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If we're going to do this, then...
The Enterprise in the 33rd Century. That would be my choice. <-- Unpopular Opinion
The Enterprise in the 33rd Century. That would be my choice. <-- Unpopular Opinion
Lower Decks doesn't cost anywhere near as much to produce as the live-action shows.
TNG had McCoy, Scotty, and Spock.
I’d be fine with that. Then again I like unpopular opinions.
But to put my producer’s hat on, how can you differentiate that from things in Trek that had come before? Putting a story on another ship named Enterprise is fine but has done before. Being pushed into the far future is fine but has been done before. What makes it different?
The question is less of cost and more of available content I believe.
Dealing with everything relating to the galaxy Post-Burn and the different relations, growing pains as the Federation continues to rebuild. Dealing with the Emerald Chain, dealing with the... I'm not giving spoilers for DSC S5.
I also like the aesthetic of the Far Future. It's weird and out there, like it should be.
More to the point, it gets you further away from a time period you don't want, which makes seeing TNG stuff much less likely.
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Google is your friend. You can find what I am talking about with the very first link.
No.
But its not. You still needed to have watched PIC at the every least prior to Legacy. TNG never required anyone to have watched TOS. For that matter, DIS never required anyone to have ever watched ENT or any other Trek before it.
My idea is “here are these characters. Yes, they have a backstory from their original appearance during the Berman era. But unless brought up, it isn’t important. Focus on who they are now.”
Uh, no. You made the statement. The onus is on you to explain it.
McCoy, Scotty, Spock, Vulcans, and Klingons notwithstanding.
I still think that my comparing Legacy to Better Call Saul is valid (Better Call Saul is a spinoff of Breaking Bad. How does one watch Better Call Saul without having seen Breaking Bad? How did Better Call Saul engage new viewers who had never seen Breaking Bad?)
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Plausible that they could all still be alive. Just like Worf, Data and Jack could all still be alive 80 years after Picard S3.
You didn’t need to have watched Trek to know what/who any of those are. All your missing are Kirk and the USS Enterprise of things that are/were in the pop culture consciousness at the time.
Let me clarify my thoughts. I loved TNG. I loved DS9. Voyager was okay. Picard season 1 was really good until the end. Picard season 2 was lacking but had an interesting premise. Picard season 3 had some great moments but with a lot more that wasn’t what I wanted to see. Prodigy and Lower Decks have some great moments. But there are over 600 episodes that take place between 2364 and 2402. Not to mention four movies. That’s about 2/3rds of the content of Star Trek. I think that era has been very, very well mined.
I’d rather see another period explored. I’d love to see a show not focused on Starfleet. You have the Fenris Rangers, or any number of alien race or group that would be more interesting than just another Starfleet show.
But I’m not blind to see that that the 25th century Starfleet is what a lot of people want to see. I’m resigned to believe that what I want doesn’t matter. And that’s okay.
At first it was vague as to when Prodigy actually took place. I initially thought it was in the far future and the Protostar had been buried for centuries before Dal & company found it, which would have been a very interesting premise. But then it turned out that it was only the 2380's and a bunch of timey-wimey stuff. I still like the show but I am disappointed that my hypothesis turned out wrong.
Well, obviously I feel differently about the (early) 25th Century than you... but it should be always understood that it's my Second Choice.
Watching the first two episodes of DSC S5 reinforces my thoughts of, "I want to see more of the 32nd Century!" That alone gets me more interested in SFA than I would've been otherwise. Still not fully sold on it, but we'll see.
An Enterprise in the 33rd Century wasn't a typo though. I figure DSC is at 3190, so 10 more years to get further from The Burn to make it a little bit different from Disco but not too different. And SFA is somewhere in-between.
This × 1000.
I made these charts back in December and it genuinely shocked me how much of the franchise is taken up by the "TNG Era." And this doesn't even include Prodigy season 2.
I think he mistakenly left the word "movie" out. Kurtzman has said he wants a Trek movie streaming on P+ every two years.
Probably late summer or fall like it usually does.
Honestly, you could watch Better Call Saul without having seen Breaking Bad.
It does color the context of some of the storylines if you've seen Breaking Bad before Better Call Saul, and there are flash forwards that would spoil some things for Breaking Bad, but you definitely could watch the shows chronologically in the same way some people prefer/recommend watching the Star Wars episodes in order or like the cut of The Godfather where they put the events of Godfather 1 and 2 in chronological order.
The way Better Call Saul tried to engage viewers and stand on its own was by creating its own cast of characters and storylines that were tangential to Walt's and Jesse's story. They eventually cross over and become intertwined, but Jimmy's and Mike's stories stand on their own and there's very little intersection with the major elements of Breaking Bad at first.
I do like Breaking Bad BUT, I much prefer Better Call Saul. You can actually get away with watching Better Call Saul before Breaking Bad, as long as you watch in this order:
Better Call Saul S1E1 - S6E9
Breaking Bad (entire series)
El Camino
Better Call Saul S6E10- S6E13
There are some flash-forwards in Better Call Saul, but they'll only add to the mystery.
Better Call Saul is my second favorite series of all-time, after Mad Men.
Better Call Saul S1E1 - S6E9
Breaking Bad (entire series)
El Camino
Better Call Saul S6E10- S6E13
There are some flash-forwards in Better Call Saul, but they'll only add to the mystery.
Better Call Saul is my second favorite series of all-time, after Mad Men.
Personally, right now I would want a show with a whole new cast.
SNW is revisiting characters we know in a way that I really enjoy. Picard gave us many old characters and I was happy with it. But I don't need another show with characters and settings we are now plenty familiar with.
Late 25th century, new ship and new crew. I could possibly enjoy a Lost Era show, but as long as it's not an Enterprise-C show. I like that we're getting Rachel Garrett back for a one-off stint in the S31 movie, but I don't think doing another Enterprise is what this franchise needs right now.
SNW is revisiting characters we know in a way that I really enjoy. Picard gave us many old characters and I was happy with it. But I don't need another show with characters and settings we are now plenty familiar with.
Late 25th century, new ship and new crew. I could possibly enjoy a Lost Era show, but as long as it's not an Enterprise-C show. I like that we're getting Rachel Garrett back for a one-off stint in the S31 movie, but I don't think doing another Enterprise is what this franchise needs right now.
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