Ok I'll say it- I like the DSC Klingons

[Bry_Sinclair]

Klingon religious crusade...yawn...

Also where did this 24 houses thing come from (surely it should be 47)? And since when did they have a caste system?

 

[Tomalak]

Klingon religious crusade...yawn...

Also where did this 24 houses thing come from (surely it should be 47)? And since when did they have a caste system?

They've always had a caste system, with warriors at the top. They have scientists, doctors, artists, chefs and farmers, but they aren't seen in the same way as warriors.

 

[FreddyE]

It might be me...but did anybody else think that the Klingon sounds somehow different? Softer...less brutal..I´d say.

 

[Mel Tenorio]

My feeling is that the Klingons are probably only going to speak english when talking to the federation. With their notions of cultural and racial purity, the Klingons probably feel that english is beneath them, they have only learned it to understand their enemy. When they are solely amongst klingons it makes no sense for Klingon characters to be speaking english with each other. Personally, I found the klingon dialogue immersed me into the klingon scenes more and made them feel like aliens.

I'm currently watching the DS9 episode 'Soldiers of the empire', an entire episode about klingons set on a klingon ship where they only speak english. There is no logical in universe explanation for it and it just comes off as lame and lazy writing.

I found that the klingon dialogue in the pilot episodes added a lot of character to the klingon scenes.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

It might be me...but did anybody else think that the Klingon sounds somehow different? Softer...less brutal..I´d say.

Yeah i thought so too it also felt more formal and dignified

 

[cultcross]

And since when did they have a caste system?

We've heard from Klingons in non warrior caste before that talk about being looked down on, and fans have long speculated that a sort of warrior class must exist to explain how 99% of the Klingons we meet are "warriors" and not janitors, cooks, teachers, doctors, or anything else you need for a society to run. The suggestion being that the Klingons we meet are those who leave their home planet like the crusaders of old in search of glory and honour on the battlefield, leaving the other classes at home to run the Empire, and consequently rarely being seen by outsiders.

 

[somebuddyX]

A caste system was going to be used all the way back in Phase II. Klingons was the name of the warrior caste, scientists are called technos and then it sounds like there was a worker caste called subjects. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Kitumba
They do mention a different type of caste system in Enterprise I'm pretty sure, either in the one where Archer goes to Klingon court or the one where they create the TOS looking Klingons.
I always wanted there to be multiple looking Klingons, like the TOS, TMP, TNG, Into Darkness all existing alongside each other.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Klingon religious crusade...yawn...

Also where did this 24 houses thing come from (surely it should be 47)? And since when did they have a caste system?

Martok was denied the chance to be an officer because he was of low birth and came from the wrong province. Sounds like a caste system to me

 

[F. King Daniel]

ENT: "Judgement" spells out the Klingon caste system.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

If the Klingons don't start speaking English soon, I am going to drop this show. The Klingon scenes kill the very little momentum the show has.

I could not agree more. The diction and rhythm of the Klingon speaking patterns sapped their scenes of their energy. It made it obvious just how polemical the Klingon scenes were, when they really should not have been. Indeed, one of my biggest complaints about the pilot episodes is that they went too far to explain the new Klingon attitude. A lot of that could have been mysteries to be unraveled in future episodes and given to more character development in the Federation crew.

 

[EmoBorg]

I found that the klingon dialogue in the pilot episodes added a lot of character to the klingon scenes.

I agree. The Klingon background was interesting. We saw T'Kuvma's background story. I want to see Kol and Voq back story as well. Knowing the motivations of these new Klingon will certainly help the show. A well developed antagonist is good for the story arc.

The Klingons see the Federation as a two-faced rising power.

 

[JasonJ]

I think the Klingons should continue to speak Klingon (Remain Klingon!), with subtitles. As much as it pains me to read them to my 5yr old, translating the words he wouldn't understand. .....

I also think that the restricted movement in their faces works, particularly as they speak English.. they don't do it really well, it is an alien language to them.. so that makes sense. I personally saw lots of emotion in their faces, expressed through the lips, cheeks, and eyes... plus, with the semi-permanent scowl with teeth exposed, they seem more vicious of an enemy, a dangerous species.

 

[Kor]

The Klingon caste system was finally touched upon in the ENT episode that was a ripoff of ST6:TUC.

The Klingon lawyer lamented that the warrior class was gaining such prominence. And in his typical ignorant manner, Archer asked, "There are other classes??"

And then in "Divergence," the Klingon doctor talked about what a scandal it was when he became a doctor, because his family was warrior caste.

Kor

 

[Brian]

I think the prosthetics are way too much and make their faces so immobile that they have no facial expressions.
Poor actors.

I agree. They look like full-head masks. It makes identifying supporting individuals whom you don't see that often difficult. And combined with the gnarly teeth, it looks extremely hard to emote in them.

 

[shady12]

I think what they did with the Klingons is the worst misstep I can think of any fictional franchise taking. I find it dumbfounding.

 

[Awesome Possum]

They've been established to look different depending on who the makeup supervisor happens to be.

Hell, Worf changed from season to season.

 

[Tomalak]

Hell, Worf changed from season to season.

And not just the hair! The season one makeup is completely different to the later DS9 look.

 

[Kor]

To me, Worf's changing forehead can be explained away as increased boniness as he aged.

Kor

 

[Tomalak]

To me, Worf's changing forehead can be explained away as increased boniness as he aged.

Kor

Doesn't explain the All Good Things flashback scenes though.

 

[Kor]

Doesn't explain the All Good Things flashback scenes though.

I think the whole thing was a Q illusion. That would also explain the various other discrepancies in ATG.

Kor