Oh, the joys of being management!

[Danoz]

Personally, I do not believe in timesheets for employees who earn a fixed salary and are not paid by the hour. Organisations like the ones I mention place a much greater emphasis on personal responsibility and end product than total hours worked.

That's exactly how I feel every time I fill out one of those effin' things.

But we owe it to the tax payers to provide an accurate accounting of how we spend state time. So it's off to the Excel spreadsheet once a month.

I fill out a time sheet, but it's more to just log the fact that you worked a standard day. I don't punch a clock at any point of the day... it's far more a matter of just completing the work on my plate and managing to stay innovative. Even so, if I were going to be more than a few minutes late b/c of metro delays or whatever, I would call email the people in my people. If there were an event or deadline, I'd have left an hour earlier than usual anyway.

Anyway, to the OP comments, he said the job is one with early morning deadlines and specific tasks to be shared and delegated; if somebody just doesn't show up on time, it throws the entire operation off. Reminds me of factory work, actually-- human resources are divided appropriately along a line of running the guillotine paper cutting machine, packaging the paper, bundling the paper, and shipping the paper--- if a link in that chain "doesn't show up on time," somebody has to be moved from another station or the shipment goes out late. It can be worked out, but if somebody is making a habit of doubling everyone's work and stressing out the department and the people involved by not being there, then it's time for a new job.

 

[kimc]

[And kim, the kicker is that I'm not saying "don't be late, period." I'm just saying "call in and let me know if your're going to be late." I haven't even got on this guy's case about being late. I can just imagine the waterworks if that happened.

Oh, I understand and have been in positions where my co-workers and I would call each other if late but that was something we set up among ourselves - not mandated by a manager. For some reason that makes a difference to me which is strange because I'm normally not late whether it's going to work, an appointment or meeting friends.

The tradeoff though is I would never cry over not having chocolate chip cookies even though that is my favorite kind of cookie.

 

[The Sneeze Police]

Why not have him fill out a leave slip? If he is routinely late 15 minutes per day, he'll use up 65 hours of leave each year...that's a lot of leave! More than half the leave he earns each year.

 

[JoeZhang]

The thread reminds me of one of the best tips I ever had - start telling your supervisors that they are "managers" and they will do more work but for no more money!

 

[Colonel Midnight]

I would tell them to get their butts in on time, or else face the Wrath of the Golden Ficus...

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[kimc]

The thread reminds me of one of the best tips I ever had - start telling your supervisors that they are "managers" and they will do more work but for no more money!

It's pretty strange how the lines between the two have blurred.

 

[JoeZhang]

The thread reminds me of one of the best tips I ever had - start telling your supervisors that they are "managers" and they will do more work but for no more money!

It's pretty strange how the lines between the two have blurred.

It's just another con - a way of getting more out of a worker for next to nothing and making sure they are more likely to take the organisation's side than other workers.

It's same with the current emphasis on teams, the idea is that the team will modify the behaviour of it's members and there will be less need for management intervention.

Fuck teams.

 

[backstept]

at my job we have to track time using Trac which is a wiki based ticket system. it's used primarily to keep the engineering dept up to date with the projects, and to track time for billing purposes
it's really handy to know what I need to be working on, and how much time I'm spending on each task, and to keep a record of what's been done already


I have an idea . . . get a box of donuts from dunkin donuts or something, but make sure they're all gone before your errant underling arrives . . . do this several times and maybe they'll start coming in on time to get the donuts