She's an ally, as in, they are on the same page for now, but Rizzo has other plans for the future. It feels to me that Oh recruited Rizzo to carry out a task, which Rizzo will do, but only because it fits her own plans.
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I agree that she's publically known as either a Vulcan or possibly Unificationist Romulan for most of the above reasons.
Well, my theory is she is an out and about former Romulan flag officer that joined Starfleet openly as a Romulan during/before/after the supernova events. And her having Vulcan artifacts on her desk wouldn't necessarily point to her being Vulcan either. Picard has awards from Klingons, he ain't Klingon, Also she doesn't have a Vulcan-type name, she doesn't behave like a Vulcan (she doesn't mention logic every two seconds).
Good point about the name, although it doesn't really fit the limited sample we have for female Romulans either.
It probably should and "Federation Security" (referenced in TSFS) is a decent candidate.
Not necessarily a traitor per se, if she's for instance a Unificationist, then she could have Romulan contacts without acting against Federation interests (sorta a reverse of Garak during the Dominion War, he was still loyal to the Cardassian people's interest, just not the Dominion puppet government led by Skrain Dukat).
Federation money?? What is that...? Written summary of all the activities you've engaged in this week to better yourself and the rest of humanity?
Social credit scores, duh
The problem is that the really nasty anti-synth stuff is said by Rizzo, not by Oh. And Rizzo was the one commanding the death squads which tried to capture Dahj. This seems to suggest that Rizzo and her brother are Zhat Vash, but Oh is not. Maybe she's a Tal Shiar (or former Tal Shiar - if they've now been officially disbanded) deep agent who has contacts with the Jhat Vash?
Oh is a human surname. Maybe one of the Commodore's parents was human.
So does Oh know that Rizzo is really a Romulan? She knows who Rizzo's agent out in the field is (and doesn't think he's a good asset), but does Oh know that he is actually Rizzo's brother? It wasn't quite clear to me exactly who knows what about whom.
Kor
So does Oh know that Rizzo is really a Romulan? She knows who Rizzo's agent out in the field is (and doesn't think he's a good asset), but does Oh know that he is actually Rizzo's brother? It wasn't quite clear to me exactly who knows what about whom.
Kor
Maybe she thinks Rizzo is a double agent, except from Starfleet to the Romulans, and not vice versa.
Kor
In After Trek when they did a bit on the Romulan makeup, Oh flashed onscreen - which seems to suggest she's a Romulan.
That said, It's pretty clear that Oh and Rizzo/Narek do not have identical interests in some fashion. Whether that's because Oh is "normal Tal Shiar" or because Rizzo is planning some sort of double cross remains to be seen.
For what it's worth, Memory-Alpha lists Oh as a Romulan:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Oh
(they site Ready Room as the source of confirmation.. I think their editors are active members of TrekBBS)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Oh
(they site Ready Room as the source of confirmation.. I think their editors are active members of TrekBBS)
DIng ding ding!
We have a winner!
"Oh" (sp?) is a Romulan Tal Shi'Ar agent, in deep undercover hiding as a high ranking Vulcan within Starfleet. Who has Tal'Shiar agents beneath her who are actually part of another, even more secret cabal (Zhat Vash or whatever).
Not really... believable. But yeah, guess that will add a bit more urgency to the whole spy side of the story.
We need a BOTH option (IE Half Romulan/Half Vulcan - HOWEVER if you go by what was alluded to in TNG S5 "Unification" and made canon in ENT S4 - "Awakening" - Vulcan and Romulans evolved on the SAME planet, so....
TOS already established that Romulans are an off-shoot of the Vulcan species. That meant that the Romulans left Vulcan at some point.We need a BOTH option (IE Half Romulan/Half Vulcan - HOWEVER if you go by what was alluded to in TNG S5 "Unification" and made canon in ENT S4 - "Awakening" - Vulcan and Romulans evolved on the SAME planet, so....
Kor
To be fair, Romulans being an offshoot in TOS didn't necessarily imply they were from the same world; no more than all the Humans found in TOS (on Argelius in "Wolf in the Fold" or Eminiar VII in "A Taste of Armageddon") somehow all started on Earth.
All it meant is that Sppock believed (in "Balance of Terror") that they'd encountered a species VERY similar to Vulcans in evolution, thus, logically, they had the same or similar civilized history. It was later in novels that some speculated Romulans were Vulcans that left because they did believe Surak's way was the right way - and TNG and later series took that and ran with it; ultimately (in ENT S4 - "Awakening" outright saying that the those who would found the civilization of, and become Romulans or "Those Who Flew Under The Raptor's Wings" left Vulcan to find a new world after the last war.
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. A vast majority of Romulans we've seen are cold and methodical. Rizzo herself is calm and dispassionate in both scenes and could easily pose as a Vulcan. Also, there have been Romulans-posing-as-Vulcan spies in Trek before!
Romulans are nothing if not professional. They could certainly "act the part" if need be. We've never seen a Romulan lose control of their emotions, like, ever.
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