Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
Excellent critique.
Excellent critique.
Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogue
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Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
And you're poorer for it.
Personally i don't understand the sudden backlash against the epilogue. I like it, it rounded up Harry's story nicely and has shown us that despite all the shit he had to go through so early in his life he will later on get a happy life.
Harry Potter never was a cold hard look at society.. it was a modern fairy tale and as such got its happy ending. Period.
And you're poorer for it.
Personally i don't understand the sudden backlash against the epilogue. I like it, it rounded up Harry's story nicely and has shown us that despite all the shit he had to go through so early in his life he will later on get a happy life.
Harry Potter never was a cold hard look at society.. it was a modern fairy tale and as such got its happy ending. Period.
Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
That'll still happen for the super mega Dumbledore's Gaping Anus edition that they'll release in 20 years.
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Oh, thank Zombie Jesus she didn't do that with the epilogue. You seem to have confused Harry Potter with Lord of the Rings. The Potter novels only ever delved into stuff like the politics of the wizarding world when it served the plot; they were always more about the characters than the world they inhabited. The epilogue addresses what happened to the characters. Is it a tad corny? Yeah, but it accomplishes what Rowling wanted it to.
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Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
Because it's so full of bullsh*t logic that it's absolutely painful?
Where do I begin?
Snape.
Harry names a KID after him? The man who made his life in large part a living hell for the better part of 6 years? Who made life hell for his friends?
Oh, but he "loved" Lily...yeah, he loved Lily so much he betrayed her to the Dark Doofus and got her KILLED. Then went crying to Dumbledoofus wanting to be saved from a well-earned traitor's fate.
Yeah, I'd name a kid after a PoS like that...when pigs fly WITHOUT magic.
Same goes for ever naming a kid after Albus "it's for the Greater Good" Dumbledoore, child neglecter (and that's being generous), manipulative chess master, and all around poster-boy for God Complex' everywhere.
This "genius" left a baby on a doorstep and condemned him to a life of starvation, abuse and neglect from his so-called "relatives", an act he ADMITS to in the Train Station sequence, in the name of "blood wards" that were supposed to offer the ultimate protection from harm. Yeah, from everybody BUT the Dursleys.
And if those amazing in-penetrable blood wards were so damned important, why in virtually EVERY year after that was Harry removed or allowed to leave Privet Drive EARLY? (Year Two: busted out by Weasleys. Year Three: ran away and spent rest of summer in Leaky Cauldron, Year Four: to the Burrow and QWC, Year Five: Grimmnauld Place, etc)
Maybe because the writer didn't think it through? Nahhh...
And then there's the "ships"...Harry/Ginny (aka the Potions Princess) and Ron/Hermione. Totally ILLOGICAL and out of character pairings that get crammed down our throats.
I could write an entire thread about that...
In short, the Epilogue is the Diarrhea Sauce on the crap-packed-fudge sundae that is Deathly Hallows.
Because it's so full of bullsh*t logic that it's absolutely painful?
Where do I begin?
Snape.
Harry names a KID after him? The man who made his life in large part a living hell for the better part of 6 years? Who made life hell for his friends?
Oh, but he "loved" Lily...yeah, he loved Lily so much he betrayed her to the Dark Doofus and got her KILLED. Then went crying to Dumbledoofus wanting to be saved from a well-earned traitor's fate.
Yeah, I'd name a kid after a PoS like that...when pigs fly WITHOUT magic.
Same goes for ever naming a kid after Albus "it's for the Greater Good" Dumbledoore, child neglecter (and that's being generous), manipulative chess master, and all around poster-boy for God Complex' everywhere.
This "genius" left a baby on a doorstep and condemned him to a life of starvation, abuse and neglect from his so-called "relatives", an act he ADMITS to in the Train Station sequence, in the name of "blood wards" that were supposed to offer the ultimate protection from harm. Yeah, from everybody BUT the Dursleys.
And if those amazing in-penetrable blood wards were so damned important, why in virtually EVERY year after that was Harry removed or allowed to leave Privet Drive EARLY? (Year Two: busted out by Weasleys. Year Three: ran away and spent rest of summer in Leaky Cauldron, Year Four: to the Burrow and QWC, Year Five: Grimmnauld Place, etc)
Maybe because the writer didn't think it through? Nahhh...
And then there's the "ships"...Harry/Ginny (aka the Potions Princess) and Ron/Hermione. Totally ILLOGICAL and out of character pairings that get crammed down our throats.
I could write an entire thread about that...
In short, the Epilogue is the Diarrhea Sauce on the crap-packed-fudge sundae that is Deathly Hallows.
Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
Gee, why don't you tell us what you really think.
Gee, why don't you tell us what you really think.
Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
You'd almost think it was written for kids.
Because it's so full of bullsh*t logic that it's absolutely painful?
Where do I begin?
Snape.
Harry names a KID after him? The man who made his life in large part a living hell for the better part of 6 years? Who made life hell for his friends?
Oh, but he "loved" Lily...yeah, he loved Lily so much he betrayed her to the Dark Doofus and got her KILLED. Then went crying to Dumbledoofus wanting to be saved from a well-earned traitor's fate.
Yeah, I'd name a kid after a PoS like that...when pigs fly WITHOUT magic.
Same goes for ever naming a kid after Albus "it's for the Greater Good" Dumbledoore, child neglecter (and that's being generous), manipulative chess master, and all around poster-boy for God Complex' everywhere.
This "genius" left a baby on a doorstep and condemned him to a life of starvation, abuse and neglect from his so-called "relatives", an act he ADMITS to in the Train Station sequence, in the name of "blood wards" that were supposed to offer the ultimate protection from harm. Yeah, from everybody BUT the Dursleys.
And if those amazing in-penetrable blood wards were so damned important, why in virtually EVERY year after that was Harry removed or allowed to leave Privet Drive EARLY? (Year Two: busted out by Weasleys. Year Three: ran away and spent rest of summer in Leaky Cauldron, Year Four: to the Burrow and QWC, Year Five: Grimmnauld Place, etc)
Maybe because the writer didn't think it through? Nahhh...
And then there's the "ships"...Harry/Ginny (aka the Potions Princess) and Ron/Hermione. Totally ILLOGICAL and out of character pairings that get crammed down our throats.
I could write an entire thread about that...
In short, the Epilogue is the Diarrhea Sauce on the crap-packed-fudge sundae that is Deathly Hallows.
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A lot of fans really dislike the epilogue for whatever reason. I didn't think it was necessary (the ending at Hogwarts really strikes me as a better way to end the book, which I loved), but there's nothing really wrong with it in terms of how the characters end up (the couples set up get married and have kids...and that's it).
A lot of fans really dislike the epilogue for whatever reason. I didn't think it was necessary (the ending at Hogwarts really strikes me as a better way to end the book, which I loved), but there's nothing really wrong with it in terms of how the characters end up (the couples set up get married and have kids...and that's it).
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The most annoying thing about the epilogue is that it leaves pretty much nothing to the imagination. I'm not saying that Rowling should keep on writing Potter books, or even that Harry should face anywhere near as big a threat as Voldemort ever again. I'm just saying, let the readers make up their own minds. Let them imagine where he decides to live, what he decides to do, and who he decides to marry.
Instead, not only does Rowling pair up most of the characters, she gives online interviews listing even more pairings. In that sense, cardinal biggles, it's very much like Lord of the Rings, in that it's super-specific about genealogies. But while LotR at least ended on a poetic note, with some of the heroes sailing off into the indescribable, golden West, Potter ends with sending some kids off to school. Er, right.
That, and the notion of all three trio members marrying their first relationship partners is so stupid it hurts.
Again, I thought DH sucked through and through, but the epilogue took it to a whole new low.
The most annoying thing about the epilogue is that it leaves pretty much nothing to the imagination. I'm not saying that Rowling should keep on writing Potter books, or even that Harry should face anywhere near as big a threat as Voldemort ever again. I'm just saying, let the readers make up their own minds. Let them imagine where he decides to live, what he decides to do, and who he decides to marry.
Instead, not only does Rowling pair up most of the characters, she gives online interviews listing even more pairings. In that sense, cardinal biggles, it's very much like Lord of the Rings, in that it's super-specific about genealogies. But while LotR at least ended on a poetic note, with some of the heroes sailing off into the indescribable, golden West, Potter ends with sending some kids off to school. Er, right.
That, and the notion of all three trio members marrying their first relationship partners is so stupid it hurts.
Again, I thought DH sucked through and through, but the epilogue took it to a whole new low.
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I probably won't walk out during the epilogue, but that's just because I like to stay for the end credits anyway. My hope is that the epilogue is just going to be a branching option on the Blu-ray release. I don't believe that the producers can do a credible aging effect on these young actors, and the epilogue is pretty pointless to begin with.
I probably won't walk out during the epilogue, but that's just because I like to stay for the end credits anyway. My hope is that the epilogue is just going to be a branching option on the Blu-ray release. I don't believe that the producers can do a credible aging effect on these young actors, and the epilogue is pretty pointless to begin with.
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Harry married Cho and Ron married Lavender?
Harry married Cho and Ron married Lavender?
Re: Oh, for Pete's Sake: They're actually filming the Potter 7 epilogu
I was using the word "relationship" in the adult sense of "first romantic partner you shag", not the teen sense of "first crush you snog". Thought that was obvious.
Besides, I don't think either of those pairings were officially boyfriend-girlfriend. Am I wrong? Wait, scratch that, don't really care.
I was using the word "relationship" in the adult sense of "first romantic partner you shag", not the teen sense of "first crush you snog". Thought that was obvious.
Besides, I don't think either of those pairings were officially boyfriend-girlfriend. Am I wrong? Wait, scratch that, don't really care.
kitsune
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I'm a fan of the Harry Potter series, but I too disliked the epilogue for its cheesiness. I warned all my friends who were planning to read Deathly Hallows to wait a week before reading the epilogue, because the change in tone completely spoils the book. I could never understand the Harry/Ginny or Hermione/Ron pairings, either. Ron may be loyal, but that's the only thing going for him. Hermione deserved so much better!
I'm a fan of the Harry Potter series, but I too disliked the epilogue for its cheesiness. I warned all my friends who were planning to read Deathly Hallows to wait a week before reading the epilogue, because the change in tone completely spoils the book. I could never understand the Harry/Ginny or Hermione/Ron pairings, either. Ron may be loyal, but that's the only thing going for him. Hermione deserved so much better!
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^^ Agreed.. I thought it was a fitting end to a wonderful series.. Book 7 had its ups and downs and dragged a bit in the middle... But the epilogue did what it was supposed to do, bring everything back around full circle.
^^ Agreed.. I thought it was a fitting end to a wonderful series.. Book 7 had its ups and downs and dragged a bit in the middle... But the epilogue did what it was supposed to do, bring everything back around full circle.
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How is it pointless? Admittedly, I just read all the books for the first time in March and April, but when I got to the epilogue, the sense I got was, "Wow, Harry had some crazy shit happen to him, but everything turned out okay in the end."
Works for me.
How is it pointless? Admittedly, I just read all the books for the first time in March and April, but when I got to the epilogue, the sense I got was, "Wow, Harry had some crazy shit happen to him, but everything turned out okay in the end."
Works for me.
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Another fan of the epilogue.
In fact, I've heard it was initially much longer and she cut it for pacing. I'm hoping the rest of the material makes it to that big encyclopedia JK has mentioned putting together.
Another fan of the epilogue.
In fact, I've heard it was initially much longer and she cut it for pacing. I'm hoping the rest of the material makes it to that big encyclopedia JK has mentioned putting together.
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Not so obvious. The notion of not shagging multiple people before you get married is stupid?
Some people don't. So I hear.
I was using the word "relationship" in the adult sense of "first romantic partner you shag", not the teen sense of "first crush you snog". Thought that was obvious.
Not so obvious. The notion of not shagging multiple people before you get married is stupid?
Some people don't. So I hear.
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I rather meant that, unless the Wizarding world places a much bigger emphasis on marrying young (never mind pre-marital abstinence) than the books actually indicate, the odds that the three biggest characters (plus Ginny) would marry and stay married to their first serious partners is unlikely (not to mention cloying) to the point of absurdity.
And that's the stupid: instead of leaving the future up to readers' imaginations, Rowling forces the shiniest, absolute best-case scenario down our throats, credibility be damned. The characters are bent into serving the needs of the plot, a fundamental artistic error. The whole thing just stinks.
I didn't actually say that that practice is stupid, though I do think it pretty damned risky, and not likely to result in long-term marriages, unless those involved live in and/or share a strong cultural antagonism towards divorce.Not so obvious. The notion of not shagging multiple people before you get married is stupid?
Some people don't. So I hear.
I rather meant that, unless the Wizarding world places a much bigger emphasis on marrying young (never mind pre-marital abstinence) than the books actually indicate, the odds that the three biggest characters (plus Ginny) would marry and stay married to their first serious partners is unlikely (not to mention cloying) to the point of absurdity.
And that's the stupid: instead of leaving the future up to readers' imaginations, Rowling forces the shiniest, absolute best-case scenario down our throats, credibility be damned. The characters are bent into serving the needs of the plot, a fundamental artistic error. The whole thing just stinks.