I don't know if this little piece of cinema has been posted yet, but I think it's quite funny 
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It's an altered timeline. This Enteprise never looked the way it did in "The Cage" and the events of this new timeline will not lead up to TMP.
Even if the movie sucks, it'll still have nothing to do with TOS in the Original Timeline.
Since I'm posting this because I discovered my ban was undone for some reason (while I was lurking) and expect to be re banned shortly, you can debate me at youtube (genuinestewey) or wordforge.
There's nothing to debate, really.
The mods and admins must have discussed this by now, and it seems you're still here. If I had to guess, I'd say they're either not sure what to do or they're taking a "wait and see" approach.
If it is established in the film that it is an altered timeline then that is fine although I don't like that particular direction.
To basically throw away all that happened in TOS and consequently everything that occurred after it (TNG, DS9 and VOY - not that I particularly like VOY btw) is to me a step too far. I think JJ is trying to have his cake and eat it, I know he is trying to make the changes seem to make sense and I appreciate that but I think being honest and saying that it is an actual reboot would be much easier to put up with.
Of course, I won't know until after I see the movie so I'm trying to be optimistic here.
Since I'm posting this because I discovered my ban was undone for some reason (while I was lurking) and expect to be re banned shortly, you can debate me at youtube (genuinestewey) or wordforge.
Discuss is probably more apt, my bad. I've been in contact with TPTB and I'm allowed back
Actually, I would rather it NOT be an altered timeline. I don't need an altered timeline to justify to myself the changes in the look.
I can simply justify the change in the ship's look by realizing that this is a 2009 movie based on the 1966 TV show and it is NOT a direct continuation of that show (and its films) -- so, of course the ship will look different.
And saying that it's "based on" the 1966 TV show and is not a direct continuation doesn't mean that I don't think it will respect the feel, characters, and "in-universe history" of that TV show -- It can do all of those things and still change set designs. Set designs don't matter that much to me. Set design is not what made 'Star Trek' Star Trek.
I can simply justify the change in the ship's look by realizing that this is a 2009 movie based on the 1966 TV show and it is NOT a direct continuation of that show (and its films) -- so, of course the ship will look different.
And saying that it's "based on" the 1966 TV show and is not a direct continuation doesn't mean that I don't think it will respect the feel, characters, and "in-universe history" of that TV show -- It can do all of those things and still change set designs. Set designs don't matter that much to me. Set design is not what made 'Star Trek' Star Trek.
ST-One
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I agree.
The alternate timeline seems a little like the writers bending over backwards to pander to the fanbois.
But I hope they handled this in-universe explanation for the different design aesthetics in a way that it will not really be noticed by the general audience.
Whereas some of the more anxiety-ridden seem to think that these producers and designers are bending them over forward - and they're definitely not into it.
ST-One
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Whereas some of the more anxiety-ridden seem to think that these producers and designers are bending them over forward - and they're definitely not into it.
If you are trying to turn me on...
... go ahead. It's working.
You haven't seen some of these dudes.
Brrrr!
Brrrr!
I've been in contact with TPTB and I'm allowed back
and am sure just like when ENT was on the air, it will be filled with many months of fun
Time to get my game face on
, welcome back I guess
Ooh - more spectacle! Great.
I just watched the ST XI trailer/interviews at esurance. It's a "kinetic" film with awesome visual effects. Kaboom. Zap. Frenetic action.
I'm just not an action film (read: explosions and fights) kind of guy. Star Trek in all its tv incarnations was mainly story with some action/spectacle thrown in. It just seems this new film panders to the high schoolers: "Cool, man, things blowing up! Sweet!"
But then, I liked "Insurrection."
I just don't like movies like the one the trailer implies ST XI is. I suppose I will go because it is Trek. Elsewhere JJAbrams has said he keeps the spirit of hope and exploaration. Maybe. But does a movie have to look/sound like MI3 to get an audience? Maybe. (Hey, maybe the next one won't even need a plot, but just have random red alert scenes and things exploding. "Awesome!")
I will retreat back to "Devil in the Dark" or watch Benny Russell freak out in "Far Beyond the Stars." Someone tell my wife where I am.
I just watched the ST XI trailer/interviews at esurance. It's a "kinetic" film with awesome visual effects. Kaboom. Zap. Frenetic action.
I'm just not an action film (read: explosions and fights) kind of guy. Star Trek in all its tv incarnations was mainly story with some action/spectacle thrown in. It just seems this new film panders to the high schoolers: "Cool, man, things blowing up! Sweet!"
But then, I liked "Insurrection."
I just don't like movies like the one the trailer implies ST XI is. I suppose I will go because it is Trek. Elsewhere JJAbrams has said he keeps the spirit of hope and exploaration. Maybe. But does a movie have to look/sound like MI3 to get an audience? Maybe. (Hey, maybe the next one won't even need a plot, but just have random red alert scenes and things exploding. "Awesome!")
I will retreat back to "Devil in the Dark" or watch Benny Russell freak out in "Far Beyond the Stars." Someone tell my wife where I am.
Ha! I would paste in that photo of the TOS rockin' bridge and add a smiley if I were tech-proficient enough. Is it reminding us the original had some spectacle? No argument. It just SEEMS like the new film goes WAY far in that direction.
Total aside re. your tag line: I've read a lot of Sturgeon - what wonderful humane stuff! That's what I'd like in a Star Trek movie. Dare I say "Insurrection" again? Insert smiley here. Be well!
Total aside re. your tag line: I've read a lot of Sturgeon - what wonderful humane stuff! That's what I'd like in a Star Trek movie. Dare I say "Insurrection" again? Insert smiley here. Be well!
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I just think that the OS has the best abrupt-change-of-course, sending-crew-flying shots.
Haven't seen enough of the new to really make a call yet.Unfortunately, Sturgeon hasn't been writing a lot lately, but I wouldn't mind seeing more of the kind of story which used to have his name at the top.
The pre-game coverage begins approximately 23 hours from the time of this post, and the opening kickoff should be shortly after 3 PM tomorrow for me, making it around 9 AM Monday for you (give or take an hour -- I'm doing this in my head and may be off on the Daylight Savings/Standard Time adjustment.)
According to the information we have, yes and yes.
That's not anything I can promise, but it would not surprise me at all to find that it would be available for viewing somewhere in very short order after it's aired on broadcast television. You know teh Internetz. It might also be that something would be legitimately available via NBC's website or that of an Australian affiliate (Channel 9, is it -- the one which had Olympic coverage the last time around?)
Oh, I think we can be assured of that.I can't wait fo the New Drama. No, I don't mean the film.
If I recall rightly, in the last couple of years, they were all (or mostly?) collected on one official website or sanctioned YouTube/Google Video channel for viewing within a few days after the game. I'd guess that something similar will be happening this time? (Someone who actually knows the answer, feel free to check in at this point.)
I hope so. If there's a new trailer I want to see it!
I'd guess that that one will also turn up on one of the official sites (Paramount, StarTrekMovie.com, maybe iTunes?) in pretty short order, in more or less the same way the last one did. I don't think you'll have to wait too long.
I just checked TrekMovie to see whether they had anything, but there's only an item about some Microsoft security tech which will be used by law enforcment during the game. The same column did have something about a Triceracopter,
so it wasn't a waste.
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