Because the hierarchy is still dominated by sexist human males? lol
Odd Things about Starfleet
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Starfleet needs affirmative action, every single captain of the USS Enterprise is 98% Terran. The TOS Starfleet has the only alien in the fleet named Spock, unless the rest of them were off screen for budgetary reasons. Between Archer's Starfleet and Kirk's Starfleet the person in charge of designing the female uniform had to be Orion.
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There's nothing wrong with looking nice at work, hopefully in the future the current phobia towards attractive work-ware that's been foisted upon our society by vile proponents of political correctness to be gone and forgotten.
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I look nice in my bra and knickers but it is not appropriate for the office. Starfleet being a semi military place is not about 'looking nice.'
Computer security certainly is something that comes and goes in Starfleet. Passwords only seemed to be used rarely, unless someone is locking everyone out (like Spock, or Data or Seska). But, yes, the lack of computer security appears to be rather lacking.
Why would Starfleet need passwords? Its computers can simply recognize people, with supposed 100% reliability (the only known mishap is between two utterly identical versions of Riker) and establish their credentials and access. Any two-bit villain might find out a password, but he can't easily become a legitimate user. (No, mimicking a voice won't suffice: Wes Crusher just fools people, not security measures, and Data is a legitimate superuser to start with.)
Generally, starships aren't hijacked by people who'd breach computer security. They are hijacked by legitimate users, or by superbeings who don't have to acknowledge security measures of any sort.
Why should it be about "looking drab", then? If it's not about looks, then nice is an obvious option.
Timo Saloniemi
Generally, starships aren't hijacked by people who'd breach computer security. They are hijacked by legitimate users, or by superbeings who don't have to acknowledge security measures of any sort.
Why should it be about "looking drab", then? If it's not about looks, then nice is an obvious option.
Timo Saloniemi
I read somewhere in future Federation history that pantsuiits had been outlawed. After a disastrous US Presidential election in the early 21st Century.
Because saluting, in the sense you are referring, is a very human, very western custom. The UFP, having all starfleet officers [Andorians, Betazoids, Vulcans etc] adopting that specific salute is ridiculous. I'm not necessarily against some type of gesture but saluting seems too militaristic for an organisation that is not purely military.
Of course, non-military organisations also salute so perhaps, as I said, some type of gesture could be adopted...but it feels too stiff, too regimented and too...traditional for Starfleet in my eyes. Coming to attention seems like enough to me.
My point is one can 'look nice' without having a miniskirt as a female uniform for a professional soldier/explorer.
They've already adopted every other tradition and custom from the US Navy, including using the prefix USS for the ship names.
Nothing "semi" about it, Starfleet is the military.
Male soldiers/warriors have been wearing skirts (often short) far longer than they've been wearing trousers, give the option to wear shorts today male soldiers will . And female soldiers still wear skirts (sometimes short) as a part of their official uniforms in militaries around the world.
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It was a reboot. The whole point was to forget about "all of Trek history".
Please don't forget the Intrepid. While off-screen, their fate played a more than incidental role in how the plot of The Immunity Syndrome unfolded.
...Although the episode leaves it open to argument whether the Intrepid was associated with Starfleet or not.
The basic concept of TOS was supposed to be that the camera follows the adventures of humans on Earth-like worlds, simply because humans are best suited for exploring Earth-like worlds (read: Earth sets and human actors are cheaper than the alternative, any alternative). Others would supposedly take care of other worlds and jobs. This supposition was left at the level of the studio sales pitch, though, and nothing of it was explicit in the stories themselves. Yet we're still free to think that Starfleet is extremely diverse but nothing of this diversity can be seen by myopically staring at a single starship, tailored for a specific team of people with like biologies, philosophies and tastes.
Timo Saloniemi
The basic concept of TOS was supposed to be that the camera follows the adventures of humans on Earth-like worlds, simply because humans are best suited for exploring Earth-like worlds (read: Earth sets and human actors are cheaper than the alternative, any alternative). Others would supposedly take care of other worlds and jobs. This supposition was left at the level of the studio sales pitch, though, and nothing of it was explicit in the stories themselves. Yet we're still free to think that Starfleet is extremely diverse but nothing of this diversity can be seen by myopically staring at a single starship, tailored for a specific team of people with like biologies, philosophies and tastes.
Timo Saloniemi
Most of these photos feature dress uniforms. Which by definition, is not practical for work.
Just because you wear something revealing doesn't mean you'll look attractive or nice. Did T'Pol turn into an ugly hag when she put on a regular uniform in Twilight?
Just because you wear something revealing doesn't mean you'll look attractive or nice. Did T'Pol turn into an ugly hag when she put on a regular uniform in Twilight?
Well, not really. The common Trek title of "first officer," for instance, is found in shipping companies and airlines, not the navy. In the USN a navigator is a senior officer department head and helmsmen are enlisted. The "side honors," seen when Sarek and Abraham Lincoln come aboard, are completely different. The watchstanding arrangements, also very different (captains and XOs don't stand watch and rarely take the conn except in unusual circumstances). The legal proceedings, completely different, nothing like the UCMJ or WW2 Rocks and Shoals.
Starfleet employs the ranks of Commander and Lt. Commander, only about a half dozen navies today use these two ranks for their officers, the US Navy being one of them.
And by "most" you mean one of the five? The Egyptian troops (approx WWI) are wearing combat uniforms, the older picture of Rhodesian troops are in standard field uniforms, the Korean soldiers (high kicking) are in regular daily uniforms, the female Russian military on parade are in standard class B's (Russian dress uniforms are more elaborate).
Only the women in the blue uniforms are in dress uniforms.
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Data password protects ship functions in "Brothers" and Star Trek: First Contact.
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