Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

[Set Harth]

To assume that Palpatine in TROS is in the same body from ROTJ - a movie whose script said that his body exploded - you would have to assume he somehow teleported from Endor to Exegol ( or wherever ). As there is no evidence of such a power anywhere else in the films, this does not seem like the most reasonable assumption.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yeah I think it might be explained in the TROS novel, but he survived the same way he did in Legends, transferred his spirit into a cloned body.

I can't find anything that says it in the movie dialogue, but I always felt it was implied by all the tubes and shit in his lab.

 

[jackoverfull]

a movie whose script said that his body exploded

perhaps it exploded in the script, but on screen we only saw a strange blue wave.

you would have to assume he somehow teleported from Endor to Exegol ( or wherever ). As there is no evidence of such a power anywhere else in the films, this does not seem like the most reasonable assumption

I mean, there is no evidence he should be there at all anyway…In the previous movies there was no hint he would come back, even Lucas insisted he was dead, Abrams pretty much pulled his return out of some lame fanfic/legends story.

Yeah I think it might be explained in the TROS novel, but he survived the same way he did in Legends, transferred his spirit into a cloned body.

no doubt.

I can't find anything that says it in the movie dialogue, but I always felt it was implied by all the tubes and shit in his lab.

not necessarily. Also, I don’t think cloning is mentioned anywhere in the trilogy apart from that remark on the soldiers not being clones, palpatine just saying he “created” Snoke or something like that.

 

[O'Dib]

you would have to assume he somehow teleported from Endor to Exegol ( or wherever ). As there is no evidence of such a power anywhere else in the films, this does not seem like the most reasonable assumption.

Would one discount the sequel trilogy for that assessment?

 

[cooleddie74]

That's not his original body. He burst into a rolling wave of blue Dark Side energy when Anakin threw him down the reactor shaft. The body he's in for Episode IX was grown on Exegol and was probably the only one considered successful enough to contain Palpatine's spirit.

 

[Set Harth]

I can't find anything that says it in the movie dialogue, but I always felt it was implied by all the tubes and shit in his lab.

The movie finds kind of the worst way of addressing it by having one of the hobbits from LOTR say it, because how would he even know? But as you say we can also see noticeably Kamino-esque equipment on Exegol as well as a vat of Snokes, so we're also being told visually that cloning is going on.

 

[Dee1891]

I thought we were discussing Rise of Skywalker!

"The Force Awakens" . . . "The Rise of Skywalker . . . whatever. Why are we discussing the Sequel Trilogy in a thread about the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series?

 

[fireproof78]

"The Force Awakens" . . . "The Rise of Skywalker . . . whatever. Why are we discussing the Sequel Trilogy in a thread about the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series?

Thread drift and it's all connected.

 

[jackoverfull]

"The Force Awakens" . . . "The Rise of Skywalker . . . whatever. Why are we discussing the Sequel Trilogy in a thread about the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" series?

this is what happens when you give in to the dark side.

 

[Captrek]

this is what happens when you give in to the dark side.

It is a pathway to many topics some consider to be… tangential.

 

[cooleddie74]

It's still in the same franchise.

This one time on a trip to East Africa I saw a Jedi do something truly remarkable....

 

[The Wormhole]

It's still in the same franchise.

This one time on a trip to East Africa I saw a Jedi do something truly remarkable....

Give birth to a gazelle?

 

[JD]

Even though I'm one of the few people I've come across who actually like The Rise of Skywalker, even I'll admit Palpatine's return was not handled very well. You can figure quite a bit out from hints and context, but it would have been nice if they had just come out and explained exactly what happened.

 

[fireproof78]

I prefer the hints and context. I know many hate it, and my view is the minority. But, after years of anger and bile over the various Star Wars things I don't agree with I think I can live with Palpatine's return.

 

[cooleddie74]

Give birth to a gazelle?

And then the gazelle grew up to redeem its father.

 

[Captrek]

The Chosen Gazelle.

 

[cooleddie74]

YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY HORN REACH....

 

[Captrek]

YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY HORN REACH....

In Part VI, when Obi-Wan was in the pit and just before Vader started to bury him with rocks, I so wanted him to say, “It’s over, Obi-Wan! I have the high ground!”

 

[cooleddie74]

"WHO has the High Ground NOW, biz-nitch???"

 

[Set Harth]

Even though I'm one of the few people I've come across who actually like The Rise of Skywalker, even I'll admit Palpatine's return was not handled very well. You can figure quite a bit out from hints and context, but it would have been nice if they had just come out and explained exactly what happened.

I still haven't heard the damn message.

Fortnite? Really? What if I don't play Fortnite?