News Obi-Wan Kenobi series premiering on May 27
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As someone mentioned up-thread, the model for what a Ben Kenobi story might looks like already exists in the John Jackson Miller novel and a few issues of the main comic book a few years back.
And for those that think there's nothing interesting to be done here: you've clearly never seen a samurai movie, let alone one staring a ronin. I mean come on, Lucas's original inspiration for the character was 'Yojimbo' and he only offered the role to Guinness *after* Mifune turned him down!
And if black and white movies with subtitles are too much you to grasp: how about 80% of every Western ever? There's always some mysterious gunsligner with a dark past and a heavy burden, who usually served on one side or another of the civil war and gets roped into standing up for some struggling homesteader or the people of a one-horse down beset with bandits and outlaws. Hell, 'Logan' was more or less what a Ben Kenobi movie might look like and that seemed to go over well!
And for those that think there's nothing interesting to be done here: you've clearly never seen a samurai movie, let alone one staring a ronin. I mean come on, Lucas's original inspiration for the character was 'Yojimbo' and he only offered the role to Guinness *after* Mifune turned him down!
And if black and white movies with subtitles are too much you to grasp: how about 80% of every Western ever? There's always some mysterious gunsligner with a dark past and a heavy burden, who usually served on one side or another of the civil war and gets roped into standing up for some struggling homesteader or the people of a one-horse down beset with bandits and outlaws. Hell, 'Logan' was more or less what a Ben Kenobi movie might look like and that seemed to go over well!
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Hell, 'Logan' was more or less what a Ben Kenobi movie might look like and that seemed to go over well!
At least we don't have to face Ben Kenobi getting killed by a tree stump.
I'd rather see the creepy old man Ben sweeping up his hut for 3 hours than the adventures of bland mcblandface and the Muppets in the last force rises or whatever episode 9 is called
- Feeling guilty over the death of Schmi and its effect on Anakin, Obi-Wan decides to help slaves on Tatooine escape to freedom.
- He organizes an underground railroad for Jedi and Force sensitives escaping the Purge, where he learns that Anakin is still alive and hunting them down, but he can't bring himself to confront him to his great shame.
- During an off-world mission for the burgeoning Rebellion under Bail Organa, he is tracked by Imperial Inquisitors and bounty hunters and has to fight them off to escape.
- While at Mos Eisley spaceport, he learns that the Hutts are pressuring the local moisture farmers for protection money and the farmers, led by Owen Lars, are planning to stand up to them. In order to prevent bloodshed that might get Luke killed, Obi-Wan first tries to use his old Clone Wars familiarity with Jabba (from the mission to rescue his son) and then later the Jedi Mind Trick to convince Jabba to back off, both to no avail, and making him an enemy of the Hutts. He ends up making a compromise or doing something which angers Lars and causes them not to talk ever again.
- Young Luke is kidnapped by Tusken Raiders and Obi-Wan has to track him down and rescue him.
There are a bunch of things you could do that don't contradict any established film canon. And this is supposedly rumored to just be a limited series, so they could pick just one example and run with it.
Just wondering if they actually have a story to tell or are cramming something in for the sake of cramming something in? Guess we'll see.
Why wait when you can already start being relentlessly negative based on absolutely no information about a show that hasn't even been officially confirmed yet?Just wondering if they actually have a story to tell or are cramming something in for the sake of cramming something in? Guess we'll see.
Which is why I said, “Guess, we’ll see.”
Dude, you already hit Peak Bill when you compared it to Season 2 of Discovery based solely on the fact that they're both prequels, and we all know how you feel about Discovery.
Paging David Lynch!
I so hope this series is going to happen... honestly, the only thing (except for my completist neurosis that's going to force me into SWIX) that would still appeal to me in the SW-universe was a Kenobi-movie/series now.
I can definitely think of moments in Kenobi's history, such as settling down on Tattooine with the trauma of essentially losing his family, threats to Luke that have to be handled without being noticed etc. A series could cover much more ground here.
I can definitely think of moments in Kenobi's history, such as settling down on Tattooine with the trauma of essentially losing his family, threats to Luke that have to be handled without being noticed etc. A series could cover much more ground here.
I compared it generally to Discovery, cramming into the cracks of a franchise past versus moving forward.
Could they do a great Kenobi show? Sure, I'll absolutely give it a try. I'm usually pretty honest about posting what I think, even if my earlier thoughts end up being wrong. I loved Solo. I hated Rogue One. At the same time, yet another franchise is taking the easy way out to garner eyeballs. Hanging everything on nostalgia instead of pressing forward.
I understand it is all about making money, I'd probably make the same business decision. But, as a fan? I find it frustrating they constantly rely on the past versus doing something new in the setting. What's next? A riff on Saved by the Bell, with Princess Leia and her friends in high school?
One of the From the Journal of Ben Kenobi issues of the current Marvel comics series is similar to that.
In #7 he helps out the Lars and some other moisture farmers who are being harrassed by some of Jabba's men, and eventually has to save Luke after they kidnap him.
I'd watch it.
And, here's the thing-audiences are demonstrating what they want with their money. Don't want more nostalgia? Got to go without Trek or Wars for a bit to demonstrate that level of interest. Until then, if it makes money, they will continue forward in the safest possible route.
They kind of had that plot idea going on in the aborted Star War: Detours cartoon comedy series from just before Disney buying Lucasfilm.
As for Kenobi, the first spoken line by "Old Ben" should be "Hello there"
The budget will probably be ten times that of Fargo season 3, and they afforded him for ten eps just fine.
A young Leia series would actually be an interesting premise. Political intrigue, espionage, philanthropy, fighting a fascistic regime and all aimed at a young teen demographic? Kind of Buffy meets Alias, with a little bit of The West Wing thrown in. Jimmy Smits & Keira Knightley shouldn't be too hard to get in supporting roles.
Inference is still not fact.It is possible for a producer to make shows of which some we like and some we don't.
Then again, prequels generally suck for valid reasons so that is low hanging fruit as well as being a different issue. Not really since Obi-Wan's series is a prequel to fill in gaps and answer questions I'm surprised anyone asked about, whatever those are. Which means the onus and possible failure might be due to the writers being too lose with continuity or not understanding the myth and legend they're making a series of.
Or they might manage to elevate Obi Wan the same way they did for Darth Vader in "Rogue One", even though that created a continuity error (a more vibrant yet old sounding Darth in RO ends up a doddering dude with a young voice in ANH, among other nitpicks within sequential/temporal context... and/or within audience context of when it's first made and shown, dawdling or not the Vader/Kenobi scene in the 1977 movie was thrilling at the time despite the slow paced nature (anyone here ever do fencing tournaments? After all, in a book, who reads chapters in the following order: 4,5,6,1,2,3,7 where they feel deja vu for the second time now only stronger, that accompanying novella to the side, 8, another novella-- *cough* to be frank, "never" is when and it's not like the PT screwed up with continuity one rightfully expects in what's sold as a continuing episode saga as such. Lore is a tricky thing, especially for established fanbases. Or even making new ones by starting out with general audiences who then watch in 1,2,3, RO, 4,5,6 7, 8, SOLO and wonder what the heck is going on for a gaggle of different reasons. Assuming they didn't go nuts either way as to knowing well ahead of time that Leia is engaging in tongue wrestling foreplay with her brother and a movie or two later states she knew it all along - thus reminding is SW really worth taking that seriously?
And back to RO/ANH: Like golf, sword fighting/fencing is not a rabid thing unless one's psycho and neither Ben nor Darth were. And yes, Obi-Wan called him "Darth" in that flick.
) Their fight had the feel of some archaic formality to it. So there you go, a possible way to get around a dignified fight with a respected enemy versus slicing and dicing a bunch of randos? Seems silly, doesn't it?)If nothing else, most fans of the reimagined BSG didn't care for its prequel either. None of this is new yet nothing changes despite changes.