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NYCC Season 3 Trailer

Great trailer! It does what a good trailer should do: it teases characters and plot points and raises my excitement.

My impression from the trailer is that the villain starts hunting the TNG characters to draw Picard out. She goes after Crusher. Picard gets the gang back together (Riker, Tori, Worf and Geordie) to go rescue Crusher. They go in the new Titan. They get ambushed by the villain. And then later we get the Ent-F. Not sure how Lore and Moriarty fit in.

Sounds rather promising.

To those complaining that we are getting yet another villain out for revenge trope: as long as the story is good, I don't think it matters.

Agreed!

I done well, people love it or find it easier to roll with the nitpicks (which is still individual upon viewer, inevitably). If overdone and doesn't work, people are understandably more inclined to complain. It's always been that way, even newspaper snippets from the 1960s where viewers wrote in aren't too much different. My favorite is in regards to Doctor Who when a viewer wrote into the BBC and complained that the show, which took itself seriously, is not about "Coco the Clown", even if Troughton's humor is more deft than overt clownishness... but that's another story.

Heck, while season 2 was a remix of some old ideas, it was largely done better than what preceded it (STFC, TVH, et al.) TVH also redid the time travel shtick done twice in TOS too, so there's a definite precedent...

Yes, we've gotten some bad takes like Nemesis but we've also gotten some great takes like Wrath of Khan. And the fact is that the villain out for revenge can be a very compelling trope when it is done right.

^^this

I prefer the revenge trope as it's more personal, instead of "Earth in danger, boom boom splat." It rarely gets old, especially if the setup is right. Shinzon was so convoluted and the story was shoving in too much that audiences were metaphorically puking long before any potential payoff...

From the trailer, I am optimistic that it will be done well in Picard. It looks like Amanda Plummer really chews the scenery well, which always makes the villain more fun to watch.

^^this

We get some great battle scenes too. I hope the villain's motivations are strong and her connection to Picard is good because that is important. The villain out for revenge trope works best IMO when the villain has a strong motivation for what they are doing and a strong connection to the main characters.

^^this

We are also getting Moriarty and Lore back. So it seems this final season will tie in to TNG. That's good. And we get the TNG main characters back together. That's wonderful. I hope we get a satisfactory conclusion to TNG.

Two underrated characters and Moriarty definitely had the most open-ended denouement, and with Daniel Davis at the helm, it's not going to be bad.

I hope Lore is more like season 1 - the malevolence is iconic to the character and for all that story's plot problems, the characters more than kept the story exciting in turn. That's huge, IMHO.

Overall, I think this final season has the potential to be really great. Can't wait.

^^this :D
 
It always seemed cray that no one (Bruce Maddox?) ever thought to have a go uploading Data’s brain into Lore. B-4 couldn’t handle it, but Lore was functionally identical to Data.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what this is - an experiment on Lore that lead to a schizophrenic Android with competing personalities, like Gollum/Smeagol.
I was also thinking, this could be a case where Data is acting like Lore for some reason.
 
Also, I don't care what your opinions are about the Odyssey and Luna class designs....

Two different fans designed these for two different competitions and won. One for the novels, one for a game. There are a lot more Trek fans that don't read the books or play STO than those that do. And now, both designs are part of of Star Trek television.
HOW FRIGGIN AWESOME IS THAT FOR THOSE FANS?!?!?! :D:D:D:D:D:D
Where do I send flowers?
Worf being a pacifist now makes sense as a men who commanded the federations flagship in the past.
It shows growth. I like it and I normally don't like Worf.
 
Laris is in this season, but very briefly.

Yeah, IIRC Matalas has said they filmed some scenes for the first episode. IMHO this was absolutely necessary, because even if she's not involved in Season 3 really, they completely invalidate the supposed "lesson" to Picard for Season 2 (that he needs to open himself up to a relationship) if Laris just scuttled off and was never heard from again.
 
If Thomas Dekker is playing Picard's son I'm not sure how he'd fit into the above scenario, but having him as Jean-Luc's son would be a good tie-in to the Nexus-fueled vision of Picard's family. And if he's Picard's son, that would be a good reason for Vadic to be coming after him.

While I do believe that Picard has a son (and Beverly is the mother), I don't think Thomas Dekker is playing the role...I believe Ed Speleers is.
 
Wasn't there some guy, Robert Meyer Burnett, who worked on TNG blu-ray releases and other things, apparently disliked seasons 1 and 2 of "Picard", but was on Twitter and other venues saying he was genuinely excited for season 3? Definitely a fascinating twist and it's easier to see why now.

I follow Burnett on YouTube and he really dislikes modern Trek but he claims to have gotten his hands on a bootleg copy of Season 3 and loved it.

To add credence to this he recently had Terry Matalas on his YouTube channel and interviewed him for about a half hour. Terry didn't deny that he saw it and Robert has worked with Paramount a few times in the past. So make of that what you will. He also said the new trailer doesn't give the main story away. Specifically saying he's tired of the Khan trope too and the villain may not be what people think. Also not everything is action in this new season.
 
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The more I reflect on this trailer, the more it doesn't sit well with me. They have the opportunity to give the TNG cast a more fitting send-off than Nemesis...and the best they can come up with is to pull another Shinzon out of their ass?
Same. It's strangely disquieting.

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Just need the "Kill everything" line to have Star Trek Bingo!
 
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The more I reflect on this trailer, the more it doesn't sit well with me. They have the opportunity to give the TNG cast a more fitting send-off than Nemesis...and the best they can come up with is to pull another Shinzon out of their ass?

I disagree. For one, we know very little of the actual plot. And we know nothing of the villain's backstory or motivations. The plot could very different from Nemesis and the villain motivations could be completely different from Shinzon. Just because the villain also wants revenge does not mean that they just "pulling another Shinzon".
 
I wonder if Plummer's character, Lore and Moriarty form a villain team up? It would make sense. They have all a grudge against Picard and the Enterprise crew. They might decide to team up since they have common cause. I hope I am right. Having a 3 villains who team up against Picard and TNG company would be cool IMO.
 
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The more I reflect on this trailer, the more it doesn't sit well with me. They have the opportunity to give the TNG cast a more fitting send-off than Nemesis...and the best they can come up with is to pull another Shinzon out of their ass?
FWIW Robert Meyer Burnett says that the trailer gives little away of the plot for the season and the villain isn't quite what she appears. I like listening to his observations from time to time. He has intimated that he's seen all of S3 and he likes it. While hating the first two seasons. He said he was pre-blocked by the official Paramount+ Twitter feed due to his intense very public dislike of modern trek. :lol:
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FWIW Robert Meyer Burnett says that the trailer gives little away of the plot for the season and the villain isn't quite what she appears. I like listening to his observations from time to time. He has intimated that he's seen all of S3 and he likes it. While hating the first two seasons. He said he was pre-blocked by the official Paramount+ Twitter feed due to his intense very public dislike of modern trek. :lol:
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Yeah, I think RMB says that we will understand, even maybe agree with the villain's motivations and that it is more than just wanting revenge for revenge sake. So presumably, the villain has some real motivation that is driving her. If so, I think that is good.
 
Alexander as K'mtar sure messed up the timeline severely, as pretty sure the bad future he came from still had Worf as a warrior.
 
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