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nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Late to this thread. What the hell is a "Love Instructor?"

And yes, I agree. If Roddenberry truly had his way, nothing that's been shown on any size screen would be considered canon with the exception of TOS, The Motion Picture, and the first couple of seasons of TNG. Trek has evolved beyond him.
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Late to this thread. What the hell is a "Love Instructor?"

And yes, I agree. If Roddenberry truly had his way, nothing that's been shown on any size screen would be considered canon with the exception of TOS, The Motion Picture, and the first couple of seasons of TNG. Trek has evolved beyond him.

Actually occurding to the OP only TMP and the first couple of seasons of TNG would be canon since Roddenberry tried to decanonize TOS with the TMP novelization.
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Had he not been the one who created it, Roddenberry's someone Trek could have done without, it sounds. Brannon Braga, there's a true hero of the franchise.
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Had he not been the one who created it, Roddenberry's someone Trek could have done without, it sounds. Brannon Braga, there's a true hero of the franchise.

Yeah till him and Berman got burned out and started repeating themselves a little, which probably wouldn't have been so bad if paramount had put a break between the Trek various shows instead of shoveling one out after the other and it wouldn't have hurt to get some fresh blood.
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

That's right -- nuTrek utterly destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

Roddenberry shared his vision of Earth and humanity, and JJ and crew ignored everything! The word of Roddenberry was dismissed!

What was ignored?

Well, there's a whole list...

- James Kirk was named for his mother’s “first love instructor,” not his grandfather!
- George Kirk as just another of his mother's love instructors.
- Kirk's academy class had less "intellectual agility" than previous classes.
- "New Humans" who are willing to meld their own identities and individuality into a group consciousness versus rare "Primitives" like Kirk who still follow ancient customs like taking the last name of your father. In fact, using the father's surname is quite rare among most humans.
- Humanity moving beyond primitive monogamy and becoming swingers.
- The Federation installing cybernetic implants (senceivers) in Starfleet member's heads.
- A lower Mediterranean Sea because the Mediterranean Alliance built the Gibraltar hydroelectric complex!
- TOS isn't really canon but is instead a grossly exaggerated version of events in which the crew were portrayed as larger than life and the events were distorted by a misguided Starfleet PR campaign.

Where was this in the new film?

This was the official vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth from Gene Roddenberry, shared with us in 1979, and now it has been totally betrayed!

Now don't go screaming "not canon!" because this is the word of Trek's creator himself, as bestowed upon us in the official movie tie-in of the pinnacle of Star Trek at its absolute purest: Star Trek: The Motion Picture!


Please tell me you're joking. If you aren't, just go away and let the next generation of fans carry the torch.
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Late to this thread. What the hell is a "Love Instructor?"

Real explanation: Sex therapist, probably.

Even more real explanation: Typical Gene Roddenberry hippie bullshit that would have been rejected even in the first season of TNG, that's how bad it was. :lol:
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Gene Roddenberry's Ideas: Too horrible for even Gene Roddenberry. :techman:
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Gene Roddenberry's Ideas: Too horrible for even Gene Roddenberry. :techman:

Or:

Too Weird For Logan's Run
Stuff That Makes 'The Way To Eden' Look Like A Young Republicans Rally
How To Make Caligula Puke
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

Or...

Just another excuse to bang an extra on the couch
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

That's right -- nuTrek utterly destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

Roddenberry shared his vision of Earth and humanity, and JJ and crew ignored everything! The word of Roddenberry was dismissed!

What was ignored?

Well, there's a whole list...

- James Kirk was named for his mother’s “first love instructor,” not his grandfather!
- George Kirk as just another of his mother's love instructors.
- Kirk's academy class had less "intellectual agility" than previous classes.
- "New Humans" who are willing to meld their own identities and individuality into a group consciousness versus rare "Primitives" like Kirk who still follow ancient customs like taking the last name of your father. In fact, using the father's surname is quite rare among most humans.
- Humanity moving beyond primitive monogamy and becoming swingers.
- The Federation installing cybernetic implants (senceivers) in Starfleet member's heads.
- A lower Mediterranean Sea because the Mediterranean Alliance built the Gibraltar hydroelectric complex!
- TOS isn't really canon but is instead a grossly exaggerated version of events in which the crew were portrayed as larger than life and the events were distorted by a misguided Starfleet PR campaign.

Where was this in the new film?

This was the official vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth from Gene Roddenberry, shared with us in 1979, and now it has been totally betrayed!

Now don't go screaming "not canon!" because this is the word of Trek's creator himself, as bestowed upon us in the official movie tie-in of the pinnacle of Star Trek at its absolute purest: Star Trek: The Motion Picture!


Please tell me you're joking. If you aren't, just go away and let the next generation of fans carry the torch.

Okay, I am a HUGE OLD fan of TOS, and I had issues with the new movie even though I was entertained by it. However none of my issues have come anywhere close to the ones I had with the novel tie of TMP.

I think Gene sorta went off the deep end with those and I am glad they are NOT canon. In my opinion such things De Humanize Humans and wow I really want to know what good old GR was smoking back then :evil:

Vons
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

I mean absolutely no offense whatsoever, but:

I really would like to know what FrontLine thinks of all this. :evil:
 
Re: nuTrek destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Ea

That's right -- nuTrek utterly destroys Roddenberry’s vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth!

Roddenberry shared his vision of Earth and humanity, and JJ and crew ignored everything! The word of Roddenberry was dismissed!

What was ignored?

Well, there's a whole list...

- James Kirk was named for his mother’s “first love instructor,” not his grandfather!
- George Kirk as just another of his mother's love instructors.
- Kirk's academy class had less "intellectual agility" than previous classes.
- "New Humans" who are willing to meld their own identities and individuality into a group consciousness versus rare "Primitives" like Kirk who still follow ancient customs like taking the last name of your father. In fact, using the father's surname is quite rare among most humans.
- Humanity moving beyond primitive monogamy and becoming swingers.
- The Federation installing cybernetic implants (senceivers) in Starfleet member's heads.
- A lower Mediterranean Sea because the Mediterranean Alliance built the Gibraltar hydroelectric complex!
- TOS isn't really canon but is instead a grossly exaggerated version of events in which the crew were portrayed as larger than life and the events were distorted by a misguided Starfleet PR campaign.

Where was this in the new film?

This was the official vision of 23rd-century humans and Earth from Gene Roddenberry, shared with us in 1979, and now it has been totally betrayed!

Now don't go screaming "not canon!" because this is the word of Trek's creator himself, as bestowed upon us in the official movie tie-in of the pinnacle of Star Trek at its absolute purest: Star Trek: The Motion Picture!


Please tell me you're joking. If you aren't, just go away and let the next generation of fans carry the torch.

Next generation you say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsxgcLf0TSY
 
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