Well, it couldn't be his last name otherwise his father would have been named Spock too.
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Well, it couldn't be his last name otherwise his father would have been named Spock too.
I agree, but I'm a fan of Burning Dreams as well. It's a really nice extrapolation of Pike, and one of the best Star Trek novels I've ever read.
Why are you apologizing to Christopher? The novel was written by Margaret Wander Bonanno.
Six inches shorter than Shatner, would have gotten his vote.
My take is that Spock is neither his first nor his family name. I think that Spock is basically his "public" name. There's a family name and a given personal name, both difficult to pronounce.
I always suspected that Spock was his "human" name. The name he's called by humans.
That would depend on Vulcan naming customs and preferences. They may have a name used publicly or professionally.
Worf uses his Klingon name "professionally", but I think hIs last name is probably Rozhenko. (At least on Earth).
Sarek and all the other Vulcans we meet in TOS also call him Spock. I think the Kohlinar master in TMP does too.
I think it's sort of dubbed, IE they call him by his name on Vulcan but since wouldn't be able to hear it as it sounds, they translate it to his human name for our benefit.
Who's "they"?
The Vulcan Master says his a couple of times, in the Vulcan language.
It's pretty close to the human pronunciation.
What happened to the words that are unpronounceable, in your opinion?
Humans learned to pronounce them, after a fashion
Like many statements in real life, not everything a character says on Star Trek is to be taken literally.
We can't pronounce certain words in foreign languages without intensive training. Sometimes you need to be born to the language to be able to pronounce certain syllables. What makes you think we could do better with alien languages?
I'm only referencing how Star Trek handled it. But as you say, practice would help and a flair for language will too. Though I've a feeling actual alien languages would be much more exotic than anything we can imagine.
That's my feeling as well.
That can mean anything.
What can mean anything?
The characters in Star Trek are not a bunch of literalists. They speak as we do in real life, employing metaphor, exaggeration, humor and simile to express ideas
But in that case what is the point of having any discussion like this. If each time you say something that's contrary to what has been said, you can invoke the "they were exaggerating/dissimulating/misremembering/lying through their teeth" rule?
Context These statements do not exist in a vacuum. There is body language, vocal inflection and facial expression. If you watch the scene with Amanda and Kirk you will get the context. Much as we do in real life.
People can't disagree about what the relevant context is?
