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NuBattlestar Galactica Appreciation Thread

What about the many, many number of times Six is doing sexy things to Baltar and no one bats an eyelid at the strange goings on..
 
I loved Captica.. so it's so hard to find DVDs of it these days. Only way to watch it online in Canada is to outright buy it on a digital service like Apple or Google Video.

I've got good news on that front. There was recently an Australian region-free release of Caprica on Blu-Ray. Why does that matter? Before that, the only way to get Caprica on BR by itself was a European release in PAL, so the show was sped up to 25 frames per second (and the menus were in French). Australia uses 24 FPS, so this is the first release (not counting, IIRC, an inclusion on a Japanese mega-set for the entire franchise including TOS and, again, IIRC, the only time the "Face of the Enemy" web-series has been released on disk) where you can get the show in HD at its correct rate-of-speed. Not only is it available for import into the US, when I got it at the beginning of the year, Amazon already had it in stock domestically.

There are some drawbacks. It doesn't include the unrated preview cut of the pilot, but aside from boobs and an interesting peak into how TV shows develop with the abandoned plot-lines that are teased (and were cut out of the final edit) and the first-pass CGI, it's not really a necessity (given that it was direct-to-DVD and never aired, I wonder if it was mastered in SD to save money and time and that's why it's not included). The pilot as-aired is, for some reason, included as two one-hour episodes instead of one two-hour episode as on the DVDs (I haven't compared to see if there are any scenes edited out to make room for the extra set of credits and re-cap, yet), and the episode commentary tracks aren't included. However, all the other special features from the DVD release are there. Be warned, I've heard a couple people say there were severe mastering errors on their copies, but I didn't have any problem with mine, it could just be a bad batch of discs slipped through QA.

I use a home media server and rip all my discs, and I already had the Caprica DVDs, so I can edit the two-part TV-edit of the pilot back together into one, and copy in all the commentary tracks, I just haven't been enthusiastic about setting aside a Saturday afternoon to do Universal Home Media's job for them.

I just checked, though, out of curiosity, and the SD special features are still higher quality than they were on the DVDs. That's good. Sometimes the producers of these late, semi-obscure library Blu-Ray releases only get the studio files for the actual episodes, and they have to rip the special features off of the DVD discs so they can include them, so they end up double-compressed and actually look worse on the BR release.
 
I like to bust this out when nuBSG comes up in discussion. :lol:

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Cylons as Smokies! :guffaw:
 
Something I forgot to mention was not only how great the episodes were but Ron Moore's podcast commentaries on them also. I'd listen to them with the episode immediately after the first watch. They were very honest and frank. Unfortunately I can't find them online anymore. I know the Blu rays have them but some of those commentaries were re-recorded so there are quiet a few original recordings missing.

I love nuBSG so much. Unfortunately, the story was never as planned as we were led to believe, but what it had to say about the human condition and how we need to co-exist with those who may have opposing ideologies. It was written in the wake of the September 11 attacks, but its core message is even more relevant today.
I believe the whole idea of "a plan" was a studio thing. Moore never wanted to be constrained by it and wanted the series to evolve naturally and focus on the characters.

All this has also got me wondering again about the supposed upcoming re-reboot. It was supposed to start production in 2019, but we all know how that time frame went, so I am sure it was sidelined. But I haven't heard anything about it being scrapped. Sam Esmail as showrunner, which after Mr. Robot gives me a lot of faith, and set within the 2004 series universe but in its own place and time. NBC was planning it for Peacock. Wonder where that's all at?
I wondered where they would go with that show. My thinking was that it might follow the non-human Cylons that left Earth in their own basestar at the end of the series.
 
I'd love to see a brand-new reboot, if only to get another version of the Galactica.

I haven't watched the series in full and not read any of the novels but I've played through BSG: Deadlock and read some of the comics. Love the BSGvsBSG crossover that explains how the universes go together. Got the Eaglemoss ships, too.
 
Something I forgot to mention was not only how great the episodes were but Ron Moore's podcast commentaries on them also. I'd listen to them with the episode immediately after the first watch. They were very honest and frank. Unfortunately I can't find them online anymore. I know the Blu rays have them but some of those commentaries were re-recorded so there are quite a few original recordings missing.

Oh, shit, that reminds me, I did find that I had a complete set of the podcast files recently. Not just the uncut commentaries for the season 3 premiere and from Mark Sheppard (who paused an episode while recording a commentary track and went overtime), but also all the bonuses, the writers’ room breakout of season 2.5, the verbal outline for “Razor,” others. Unfortunately, years later, Moore mentioned in an interview that they’d lost the recording of the writers’ retreat where they first went over the series finale, which would've been interesting, especially considering how they reconsidered after the break the strike gave them, so that'd be a great picture of the version where the whole thing came down to Saul and Ellen having to save their marriage to stop the war.

Anyway, here's the whole run of the BSG official podcast, rarities included.
 
Oh, shit, that reminds me, I did find that I had a complete set of the podcast files recently. Not just the uncut commentaries for the season 3 premiere and from Mark Sheppard (who paused an episode while recording a commentary track and went overtime), but also all the bonuses, the writers’ room breakout of season 2.5, the verbal outline for “Razor,” others. Unfortunately, years later, Moore mentioned in an interview that they’d lost the recording of the writers’ retreat where they first went over the series finale, which would've been interesting, especially considering how they reconsidered after the break the strike gave them, so that'd be a great picture of the version where the whole thing came down to Saul and Ellen having to save their marriage to stop the war.

Anyway, here's the whole run of the BSG official podcast, rarities included.
Hot damn! Time to break out the scotch and cigars!
 
On my rewatch, I just watched Six Degrees of Separation. Lots of good lines in that one:

"YOU DIDN'T WASH YOUR HANDS!" :lol:

"All right. No more Mr. Nice Gaius." :lol:

Also, some foreshadowing for Daybreak, Part III, which I'd COMPLETELY forgotten about with Shelley Godfrey :eek:
 
NuBSG started out well, was strong in Season 2 and then took a swift nosedive in Season 3. There are good episodes throughout the series though and when the show is good, it is good.
 
The only thing I really didn't like about 2005 Battlestar was they never followed through very well on the "Cylons have a plan" thing. They might have had a plan, but it was not a well executed plan from a writing perspective. That should have been in the series bible to start, especially when the theme song reminds us that "They have a Plan".
 
They Cylons having a Plan was something Ron Moore thought up at literally the last moment when it came time to write up that narration at the start of the episodes wanting something interesting sounding to finish it off with, and "And they have a Plan" was what he thought up.
 
I think the issue is people read “And they have a plan” and thought “And there’s going to be a twist.” Not just a reveal, a you-were-wrong-the-whole-time-about-a-fundamental-part-of-the-story twist.

The Cylons had plans, goals, plots, and schemes out the wazoo, I don’t think you can seriously argue that the show presented them as bumbling their way freestyle towards destroying 99.9% of humanity and replacing them in the cosmos.
 
They Cylons having a Plan was something Ron Moore thought up at literally the last moment when it came time to write up that narration at the start of the episodes wanting something interesting sounding to finish it off with, and "And they have a Plan" was what he thought up.

They could well have had a plan - but like many military plans it never survived first contact with the enemy.
 
Another thing I keep thinking about is, did Gina Inviere ever genuinely love Admiral Cain?

In Razor, you'll notice that when Gina is outed as a Cylon she immediately abandons her cover identity and goes into full Cylon mode. Thus suggesting Gina's relationship with Cain was nothing more than part of her mission as a Cylon spy.

So it would explain - not justify, but explain - the subsequent actions of Cain and her crew towards Gina. Meaning: if Gina is so easily capable of switching off her love for Cain, then Gina must not be sentient after all, and thus Cain and her ilk believe they are free to do what they want with her.
 
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