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NuBattlestar Galactica Appreciation Thread

I really enjoyed it up until the end, which I thought just fell apart into nonsense. Before it was one of my absolute all time favorite shows, with great writing and a fantastic cast.
Ironically, a lot of people say the same thing about Lost, but I absolutely loved that one straight through to the end, and was actually very happy with how it ended.
 
I didn't mind the BSG reboot, and everything about it was great, the ships the characters except yeah that final season felt a bit off compared to the rest. Production was good too and none of it looked cheap.
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
He was much better in Season 2 of PIC as Picard's father. Not loathsome or a cockroach at all. Very un-Baltarish.

One of the few good points OF PIC season 2, in fact.
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I watched S2 not that long ago and I still wouldn't have realized they were the same actor if the name hadn't nagged at me.

I've now seen Dean Stockwell in 2-3 episodes and he's magnificent. I love the reaction during the scene where he meets himself in the brig.
 
DonIago said:
I watched S2 not that long ago and I still wouldn't have realized they were the same actor if the name hadn't nagged at me.

I've now seen Dean Stockwell in 2-3 episodes and he's magnificent. I love the reaction during the scene where he meets himself in the brig.
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"I'M NOT A CYLON!!!!! Oh..." :lol:

I'm currently rewatching and just finished the two parter where they're searching for Starbuck. Some things are happening way earlier than I remember, like I didn't remember Hot Dog being introduced so early.

On my first viewing, (I watched the first two seasons before season three aired [I only decided to watch it because I wanted to see what Dwight Schrute was so obsessed with :lol: ]), I had never watched the original series. I thought the design for the Battlestars were a beefed up Runabout from DS9. Little did I know it was the opposite :lol:

Baltar is a scumbag and loathsome, but James Callis plays him in a way that makes him fun to watch (especially when Head Six puts him in uncomfortable situations) and I find myself laughing out loud very often when he's on screen.

Colonel Tigh is gruff and a mean bastard, kind of a space-Mr. Lahey, but he grew on me first time around in Season Four.

But, besides Starbuck and Baltar, I think the real standout of the show is Edward James Olmos as Commander Adama. His "We are at WAR" speech gave me chills, his glare could bore holes through whoever was on the receiving end. His bullshit "13th colony of Earth" speech at the end of the miniseries had me believing :lol:

My biggest complaint would have to be Caprica. They ended the show right when it was REALLY getting good :(
 
acappellasaurus said:
I hear what you're saying, but for me, this makes it all even more compelling, in line with the "all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again" theme. And the idea that we are them. The original series did this too, maybe with more of an Egyptian slant. If you look in the background of a lot of scenes, there is representation from lots of different cultures in our world. I really latched onto the concept of a...genetic memory (for lack of a better term). That the names we have as common today have these ancient origins. That themes in our music, i.e. Watchtower, all flow through our deep-time history and resurface along that way as new generations tap into them. We're all just variations on an ever present theme.
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Hell, we see Humvees being used on New Caprica and, forty-some years earlier, we see some Ford vehicles driving around on Caprica :eek:
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Baltar is a scumbag and loathsome, but James Callis plays him in a way that makes him fun to watch (especially when Head Six puts him in uncomfortable situations) and I find myself laughing out loud very often when he's on screen.
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What kind of bothers me is that for the number of times he behaves erratically because he gets distracted by Six, nobody ever really calls him out on it. Does he have such an "eccentric genius" reputation that people just write it off?

There's been other things in the show that pushed my suspension of disbelief as well, but that's probably my longest-term "Really?"

I will say in the episode where Pegasus answers the fake distress call I fully expected the ship to get destroyed (partly as a way of resetting the status quo)...my only real question was how they were going to do that without killing any of the main cast. I'm a little disappointed that they don't show the ship with any significant damage (that I've noticed) following that incident.
 
I love nuBSG so much. Unfortunately, the story was never as planned as we were led to believe, but what it had to say about the human condition and how we need to co-exist with those who may have opposing ideologies. It was written in the wake of the September 11 attacks, but its core message is even more relevant today.
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
Wasn't Caprica originally a standalone series that had nothing to do with BSG, but had BSG elements hastily slapped onto it at the last minute?
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Well, if by "last minute" you mean "over the course of five or six years," sure. Remember, there was also a year gap between the unrated preview cut of the pilot being released and the show actually starting, over-and-above the years of development.

Here's how BattlestarWiki summed it up:

Development of Caprica began as early as the 2005-06 season of Battlestar Galactica according to an IFmagazine interview with producer David Eick. About the same time, 24 writer Remi Aubuchon pitched a series to the Sci Fi Channel similar to the Cylon storyline. Realizing that they could not devote their full time to both Battlestar Galactica and a spinoff, Eick and Ronald D. Mooredecided to team with Aubuchon: "We took some of what we had and some of what he had".

In a may 2006 interview with Dreamwatch Magazine, Remi Aubuchon stated that he originally pitched a series that was an "allegorical story about slavery with robots" when approached by Moore and Eick. Aubuchon elaborated on details about the Battlestar spinoff, saying that William Adama would be 11 years old when the series begins. Aubuchon described the series as meant to stand on its own from Battlestar Galactica, but that "certain elements have been embedded into the first few episodes of season 3" of the current series.​
 
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All this has also got me wondering again about the supposed upcoming re-reboot. It was supposed to start production in 2019, but we all know how that time frame went, so I am sure it was sidelined. But I haven't heard anything about it being scrapped. Sam Esmail as showrunner, which after Mr. Robot gives me a lot of faith, and set within the 2004 series universe but in its own place and time. NBC was planning it for Peacock. Wonder where that's all at?

Thanks to the whole "all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again" mentality, they could almost do anything they wanted without canon-busting this series.
 
JD said:
I really enjoyed it up until the end, which I thought just fell apart into nonsense. Before it was one of my absolute all time favorite shows, with great writing and a fantastic cast.
Ironically, a lot of people say the same thing about Lost, but I absolutely loved that one straight through to the end, and was actually very happy with how it ended.
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Have you tried a second watch through of Lost? I can pretty much guarantee you'll notice things you entirely forgot about during the first go-round that in retrospect went nowhere, added nothing, or became so convoluted that it doesn't even matter what the initial intent was.

Mr. Laser Beam said:
He was much better in Season 2 of PIC as Picard's father. Not loathsome or a cockroach at all. Very un-Baltarish.

One of the few good points OF PIC season 2, in fact.
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As a general rule of thumb, I've found that the better an actor is at playing a villain (or anti-villain, I guess) the better the indication that they're 1) actually a nice person, and 2) by definition, a really good actor. Actors that are genuine arseholes (or just narcissists) don't usually have the necessary self-awareness to play that kind of character.
 
Is there any chance - any at all - that the full 30-minute version of The Second Coming might ever be made available? Does it even still exist? I'd freaking LOVE to see it.
 
DonIago said:
What kind of bothers me is that for the number of times he behaves erratically because he gets distracted by Six, nobody ever really calls him out on it. Does he have such an "eccentric genius" reputation that people just write it off?
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One of my favorite scenes (I don't remember the episode), but Baltar is in a CAT scan like chamber getting tests done, and he's arguing with Head Six, then all of a sudden Dr. Cottle yells "Hey! Stop going crazy in there!" :lol:
 
DonIago said:
What kind of bothers me is that for the number of times he behaves erratically because he gets distracted by Six, nobody ever really calls him out on it. Does he have such an "eccentric genius" reputation that people just write it off?

There's been other things in the show that pushed my suspension of disbelief as well, but that's probably my longest-term "Really?"
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Yeah, that always kind of bugged, and they I've had the same issue with both Quantum Leaps, there are a lot of situations where Sam or Ben are talking to Al or Addison and you'd expect people to notice and call them out on it, but no one does.
Reverend said:
Have you tried a second watch through of Lost? I can pretty much guarantee you'll notice things you entirely forgot about during the first go-round that in retrospect went nowhere, added nothing, or became so convoluted that it doesn't even matter what the initial intent was.
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I've watched everything up to at least the second to last second to last or last season, and still love it. I was happy with the amount and kind of answers we got, and I really enjoyed the overall story arc from start to finish.
 
I love LOST too. I feel as though a lot of one's ability to love it speaks to why they're watching it though, and whether they properly understand the final episode.
 
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