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Not a fan of Clara
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This.
The Jimmy Savile scandal, which has resulted in the In a Fix with Sontarans skit being removed from the DVD of The Two Doctors.
Well I think Clara should have some more surprises to her coming season 9, cause unlike season 8, she really didn't have that impossible girl feel to her, and of she truly is the "impossible girl" then she needs to have much more then one event defining her role Like in season 7.
Jimmy is a paedophile.
There was so little time between Tegan's departure and return that it feels like that's how it was planned all along. Yes, it could have been permanent at the end of Time-Flight. But she came back in the very next story, so it felt like part of a story arc.
Thank you. That clears everything up perfectly.
I have absolutely no idea who Jimmy Savile is, or what it is that he did.
Considering how miserably stupid most of the stories are now, I'd prefer to remember Romana as she was in Warrior's Gate - going off on her own with K-9 to do her part to make the universe a better place instead of wasting her life on Gallifrey.
It costs extra for me to see Doctor Who, since the Space Channel isn't part of my basic tier of channels. So this past season left me feeling pretty cheated, since it wasn't worth the money. So unless Clara gets permanently off the show, I'm not forking over yet more money for a show with a companion I can't stand and which has some of the dumbest stories I've seen since nuTrek.
Thank you. That clears everything up perfectly.
I have absolutely no idea who Jimmy Savile is, or what it is that he did.
I don't really think there was any need for the roll eyes. Americans assume the whole world knows their business all the time, you can't be surprised if Brits do it too, especially in a DW thread.
Anyway, Jimi Savile was a 70s and 80s TV personality in the UK, a flamboyant character bedecked in gold chains and a cigar even though he was an old white man. He was massively popular at the time and hosted his own show called Jim'll Fix It which involved him making little kids' dreams come true. Unfortunately after his death a few years ago, revelations came out that he was a colossal pervert who sexually abused children, the elderly, hospital patients and basically anybody he could get his hands on. Not only that, but it was discovered that there had been a planned expose in the years before his death, but that it had been quashed from within, indicating that people knew and were protecting him. It was the biggest scandal the BBC ever faced, and consequently every mention of him has been scrubbed from any BBC material, including the special Doctor Who crossover called A Fix With Sontarans.
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Thank you for explaining.I don't really think there was any need for the roll eyes. Americans assume the whole world knows their business all the time, you can't be surprised if Brits do it too, especially in a DW thread.Thank you. That clears everything up perfectly.
I have absolutely no idea who Jimmy Savile is, or what it is that he did.
Anyway, Jimi Savile was a 70s and 80s TV personality in the UK, a flamboyant character bedecked in gold chains and a cigar even though he was an old white man. He was massively popular at the time and hosted his own show called Jim'll Fix It which involved him making little kids' dreams come true. Unfortunately after his death a few years ago, revelations came out that he was a colossal pervert who sexually abused children, the elderly, hospital patients and basically anybody he could get his hands on. Not only that, but it was discovered that there had been a planned expose in the years before his death, but that it had been quashed from within, indicating that people knew and were protecting him. It was the biggest scandal the BBC ever faced, and consequently every mention of him has been scrubbed from any BBC material, including the special Doctor Who crossover called A Fix With Sontarans.
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And I'm not American, so there's no need to get snarky. After all, if I start talking about Gian Gomeshi, I don't expect that everyone here is up on Canadian current events and would know what that's about (formerly-popular CBC host accused of multiple sexual assaults, sometimes involving CBC interns, dating back many years).
Is it really so bad to be mistaken for a Yank?
Thank you. That clears everything up perfectly.
I have absolutely no idea who Jimmy Savile is, or what it is that he did.
So Google isn't a thing in the Great White North then?
He was a very prolific TV presenter here, did a lot for charity and used that as a way to rape and abuse hundreds of women over several decades and to put it very simply, he was a monster.
As for Clara, I like here and I understand her just fine.
I know it's a little bit bad, but it's not like the street rioting when they changed Darrins on Bewitched.
It depends on the situation, but in this case, yes. I dislike the assumption that because I live on the North American continent, I automatically know everything about American pop culture. Actually, there's a lot about it I do not know, and can't think why I should.
This is correct. We are not interchangeable people.
I'm not sure Jenna Coleman & Peter Capaldi have good chemistry. It may be the writing.
I think Clara not being sure about Doctor #12 forces viewers to choose sides & most viewers choose The Doctor, because he's "The Doctor".
Clara at times seemed the main Character in Season 8. Yet Clara always seemed to be on the verge of leaving.
Why ask viewers to invest in a character seemingly on her way out all the time?
I didn't believe in her relationship with Danny Pink. I don't think the actors pulled it off & not sure why they liked each other other than the script said so.
Jenna Coleman is super cute- I hope she & the writers find a groove with Capaldi in Season 9.
I think Clara not being sure about Doctor #12 forces viewers to choose sides & most viewers choose The Doctor, because he's "The Doctor".
Clara at times seemed the main Character in Season 8. Yet Clara always seemed to be on the verge of leaving.
Why ask viewers to invest in a character seemingly on her way out all the time?
I didn't believe in her relationship with Danny Pink. I don't think the actors pulled it off & not sure why they liked each other other than the script said so.
Jenna Coleman is super cute- I hope she & the writers find a groove with Capaldi in Season 9.
She talks about that here; it's certainly something she was aware of two years ago yet no-one involved seems to think it's a major problem. It doesn't bother me too much but I can understand why some might have an issue with it.
If someone mentioned a "Gian Gomeshi scandal" on a thread about a Canadian show without further elaboration, I'd assume it was a Canadian thing I don't know about, and open a new window to Google or Wikipedia.
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It's pretty obvious that Clara is the Doctor. What's walking around is a memory of Clara he pulled out of his subconscious after the real Clara was sliced and diced into a trillion pieces running into his timeline, which he pretends is a real person, when it's really just a granule of him larking about as a shadow of she.
I can see a couple ways that because of this, that Jenna could play the next Doctor.
Yes it can get that much worse, so can the collective fanbase please stop it's milk sopping until things actually become contentious?
I can see a couple ways that because of this, that Jenna could play the next Doctor.
Yes it can get that much worse, so can the collective fanbase please stop it's milk sopping until things actually become contentious?
I think you're right. I wouldn't want to have Romana's character ruined by bringing her back during a crap year of Who. I'm not even sure she could save the show for me. The past two series have left me feeling rather deflated. Maybe Doctor Who just isn't for me anymore, and I think I'm coming to accept that. I was into Doctor Who before Star Trek. Because I started to dislike the show, it brought me out of the Whoniverse bubble and got me watching other sci-fi. I guess I should thank everyone involved in current Doctor Who for my love of Star Trek. I'm not being sarcastic either.
And yet people do. I used to be a member of a Doctor Who fan site. At least on that site, many people had an intense love for her character and would usually end up siding with her over the Doctor (which is understandable in some cases but not every time). I remember the few times I expressed my distaste for Clara, I was jumped on by multiple people. I wasn't rude about it either. I'd just say what bothered me about her and get a bunch of, "you don't HAVE to like her" (no shit, but I'd sure like to actually enjoy the current companion on what was my favorite show) and "you're a sexist" if I brought up her being bossy or throwing a tantrum when she didn't get her way.
Don't remind me.
I think they have tried to build a codependency between the Doctor and Clara that doesn't always come across like that. People see Clara as entitled because of the amazing opportunities the Doctor has provided but the Doctor has been just as entitled to ingratiate himself into her life. The Doctor took advantage knowing she wouldn't be able to resist one more fix as he undermined her attempts to get on with a normal life especially in the last series. They are both using each other to an extent.
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