What would have been the consequences of Worf not being a part of the show? Do you think Julian and Jadzia would have gotten together instead?
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No Worf on DS9
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The biggest consequences would be lower ratings.
Maybe--but somehow, considering the attitude conveyed in that statement ("If Worf hadn't come along...")--namely, that Julian was Mr. Second Choice for Jadzia...that doesn't bode well. "Second Choice" implies Jadzia would be settling, as far as she was concerned.
Also...frankly, they didn't really "fit" as a possible couple. Their respective personalities weren't particularly compatable. Jadzia had a slightly patronizing air towards him from the beginning--"I was a man once, so I can understand the urges," blah, blah, blah...and that didn't particularly change as the series went on.
Julian and Ezri "fit" better--like hand and glove. And so did Worf and Jadzia.
Other possible changes, had Worf not been brought on: a LOT less with the Klingons. No Klingon war arc, no stuff with Gowron's corruption and Worf killing him. Martok...hmm. Probably no Martok--but maybe.
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It is highly unlikely that Worf's absence would have hurt ratings. Similarly, it's also unlikely that his presence boosted them. DS9's ratings declined on the same steady curve that all post-TNG Trek series did. See, for example, http://www.madmind.de/2009/05/02/all-star-trek-movies-and-episodes-in-two-charts/.
I read somewhere that the addition of the Klingons in the fourth season at least helped seal the wound a bit for a while. But that graph (which I've seen before, actually, but neglected to recall) does seem to claim otherwise about it.
Yeah, that seems about right. It's still contrary to the producers' and Paramount's intent that Worf's addition was unabashedly meant to increase ratings. (hey, that's not a jab at the guy, I like him in DS9). Then again, the article makes it clear that Seven served the same role, but suffered the same results too.
Something about that graph is technically incomplete, though -- it doesn't show the target demographic. It's frequently-mentioned alleged knowledge that the Dominion War on DS9 helped with the much-coveted younger viewers. DS9's downward slump in the raw Nielsen numbers in that graph doesn't get to demonstrate that, if it is true.
Worf and his rambunctious Klingons might have also helped with that matter.
Worf and his rambunctious Klingons might have also helped with that matter.
Good point. I wonder if those numbers are lost forever? I've never seen a comparative graph with them.
Nor have I. Done a little digging, too. Nothing extensive but more than just a Google search. I still haven't found anything.
who (or what) do you think worfs best friend is? Do you think he likes making sandwiches when he gets lonely? 
i find worf eerily easy to relate to and would like to discuss any common experiences y
ou have had 
~baby worf
dear worf my best man
I wish my ex-wife was you
you should do more shows
i find worf eerily easy to relate to and would like to discuss any common experiences you have had ~baby worf
dear worf my best man
I wish my ex-wife was you
you should do more shows
I think that if Worf was not on DS9, I think that Sisko would have a harder time defeating the Klingons in the episode Way of the Warrior.
I think the worst difference would be Worf's character. Frankly, by the end of TNG, Worf was a stock plot device; you kick his ass to show how strong an adversary is or you have the big Klingon honor speech. Parallels was a nice exception, but he wasn't explored much more(or shown as a competent combat officer) until DS9.
I kind of pine for this alternate universe version of DS9 that we would have got if TPTB hadn't decreed that the producers shake up the show for season four. Reading the DS9 Companion revealed that Dominion paranoia would have dominated what would have been a cliffhanger going into season four. No Worf and no Klingon diversion?
I don't know if it would necessarily been better, but it's all interesting nevertheless. Season four turned out very strong but it did sort of veer the Dominion storyline away that had been ramped up in season three. Of course it had all neatly come together by season five.
I don't know if it would necessarily been better, but it's all interesting nevertheless. Season four turned out very strong but it did sort of veer the Dominion storyline away that had been ramped up in season three. Of course it had all neatly come together by season five.
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