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No, that's not true.

Tell her that the Americans were either clever enough to fool almost everybody, or they were redneck enough to actually light that moon candle. Hopefully she'll have an epiphany.
 
I have a feeling more untrue things are believed than true things. We live in an age when people declare their ignorance with pride.
 
Oh, the people in my current online class. They wildly assert things with no evidence, they have no sense of common logic, and my head hurts after trying to discuss things with them. I was trying to describe that I go by science in most matters, because science is fact-based whereas things relating to god are faith-based. My favorite classmate responded with "God is fact-based" (along with a whole bunch of other nonsense) and I knew that the battle had already been lost.

The stupid thing of it all is that I don't even have an issue with religion in general, I'm religious myself, and I'm not trying to convert people or attack their beliefs. I just want to be on the same page when it comes to defining terms like "facts," "evidence," "assertions," and so on.

Did I mention this woman also doesn't believe it's true that lots and lots of time passed on Earth before humans were around? There's apparently no evidence of that! It's not true.

Aaaaaaaah! :klingon:

I empathize. I really do. Back when I was still a Minister, one of my former colleagues gave a sermon that talked about the evils of science, that Satan had planted fossils to give the Earth the appearance of great age, when in truth it was only 6,000 years old. After the sermon, in the vestibule, we were chatting it up a bit and I asked him how he knew that, and he told me that God gave him that revelation. When I asked him what he'd say if God told him that the Earth was billions of years old, he replied "I would know it was Satan telling me these things". So no, there is nothing you can say, nothing you can do. These people will not be moved, because they are absolutely and unequivocally convinced that they are right.
 
I had a friend in high school who was convinced that the movie "Good Morning Vietnam" was about Pat Sajak. :rolleyes: Yeah, he was a dj in Vietnam, but the movie was about Adrian Cronauer (sp?). I showed her magazine articles about it, and she still didn't believe me. She also insisted that Dian Fossey wasn't dead, even after seeing "Gorillas in the Mist". She was probably confusing her with Jane Goodall.
 
And most of the "Moon Hoax" believers are, as you'd expect, too young to remember the Apollo landings. Many of today's young people don't think anything noteworthy happened before they were born.

See I've found it's the other way around, the only people I've met who don't believe we landed on the moon are, while not quite old enough to have probably watched it, were born around that time.
They both (and I've only met two who would argue such) believe it was a hoax and that the Americans paid everyone off. When asked why the Russians didn't say anything they reckon the Russians wouldn't know, cos you know they don't have even better equipment than us:brickwall: . Also just fyi there is apparently a poisonous layer between Earth and the moon, that if we passed through it, we would die, just thought I'd warn you all :rolleyes::guffaw:
 
The things is she was a library tech I worked with so she had average intelligence at the very least.

I meet another women who believes that dinosaurs and men lived at the same time. When she was asked why there was no cave drawings of dinosaurs she said it was because people didn't eat them so they didn't need to draw them.

I didn't realize that the cave drawings were actually the menu at a caveman restaurant.
 
I heard the dumbest thing when I went to the zoo a month ago. I was looking at the hyenas(love hyenas!) & this couple with some kids pass by & the mom says "ugh I dont wanna see the hyenas, theyre evil & they have rabies... let's go."

yeah, the zoo is gonna keep rabies-infested hyenas on display. :rolleyes:
 
I heard the dumbest thing when I went to the zoo a month ago. I was looking at the hyenas(love hyenas!) & this couple with some kids pass by & the mom says "ugh I dont wanna see the hyenas, theyre evil & they have rabies... let's go."

yeah, the zoo is gonna keep rabies-infested hyenas on display. :rolleyes:

AN EVIL PETTING ZOO?

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I heard the dumbest thing when I went to the zoo a month ago. I was looking at the hyenas(love hyenas!) & this couple with some kids pass by & the mom says "ugh I dont wanna see the hyenas, theyre evil & they have rabies... let's go."

:lol: Hyenas are evil! I know because The Lion King taught me so!

But yes, I sympathise with everyone who has posted in this thread. I've been in that situation too. Unfortunately, with a great many people today their subjective feelings are given more weight than objective evidence or logic. If it feels right to them, it is right, end of story- and they don't care about your rationality and evidence one bit.
 
My in-laws insist that Obama is a Muslim, bent on destroying the Christian culture in the US. When I remind them about the early scandal involving the minister of the Baptist Church Obama attended for years and years, they insist that was just a story CNN planted to get him elected. They also insist that the UN is an evil conspiracy created to bring down the US. When I try to point out that the US, and FDR, actually was one of the major players involved in creating it, and that the first meeting was in San Francisco....well, that simply can't be true. It's all a lie perpetuated by the liberal media.

This is usually the point in the conversation where I simply leave the room.

That's a level of stupid I can't even begin to comprehend.


I also had a co-worker who insisted, just INSISTED, that the reason cat scratches got infected so easily was because cats had poison glands that injected mild toxins through their needle-like claws. I admit I completely ripped her to pieces one day, in front of our boss, and explained not only how infections occurred but also the basic biological structure of most North American mammals. Her response, "Well that's what YOU think."

Mine: "No, it's a fact. Go ask any veterinarian in the WORLD. I'll bet you $50."

She said she would do just that and stomped off. I saw her later and she refused to talk to me. Never did get my $50. :lol:
 
Channeling Auntie Hill above, the willingness of people to believe absurd things in the realms of politics and religion is endless. It all hinges on the desire to have superior knowledge about SOMETHING. Drive a stake in the ground about a Muslim Obama, death panels, moon landings, 9/11 complicity or Star Trek canon and always use something that you can't prove by incontrovertable evidence. Some people's sense of accomplishment and self-worth is low enough that they will try to elevate themselves through conspiracy thoeries. It is simply sad, and there is no remedy. It is only a joke until they pick up a gun or a Piper Cherokee and kill other people to prove their absolute rightness.
 
At a former place of employment, a co-worker (black, African-America, negro -- pick one) had a book on his desk about the Buffalo Soldiers. I made a comment about it and he stated he'd just picked it up, wanting to learn about them. I had stated that he'd learn that their primary purpose for existing was to wipe out the Indians, which somewhat was good for the recently freed slaves as it would earn favor with the whites. He was livid with me for making that statement and refused to believe it.

About a week later, he said, "I owe you an apology. I got into that book and you were right about the Buffalo Soldiers being formed to exterminate the Indians. I returned the book to the library, not wanting to read any more." I told him that he should not shun history, but learn it and understand it. *shrug*

I also attended a non-sectarian private school from grade-school through grade 12. Every year, the student body spent the month of March studying a significant event in the history of the world. In grade 10, it was the Holocaust. All students in grades 7 - 12 were required to read the book All But My Life, by Gerta Klein. At that time, my mother also forced me to attend Sunday School. I had made a comment to one of the other guys in the class (we all attended different schools) about how we were studying the Holocaust and one of them launched into the dissertation how it was all a lie by the Jews, it never happened, etc. I countered about the period film records the US troops had that we watched, and even the Holocaust survivors who spoke at our school, which included Mrs Klein as well as Robert Clary, who played LeBeau in Hogan's Heros. Mr Jackass gave me a snotty look and continued that it was all a lie. I was ready to punch his face in right there, and to this day I wish I had.
 
i think i would've.

my father alternates between claiming to know everything to claiming not to know anything.

anything to do with the British military, he reckons he knows it all despite having left the Army in 1974 before i was even born and despite a shit load of stuff changing in the mean-time. if i say something about the Army or the military that I've read some place, he argues about it and then claims i'm talking twaddle.

but on the other hand he'll admit to not knowing about computers or something even when he does have some limited knowledge.
 
I've just been rememebered about the time one of my co-workers claimed that his friend had copies of the scripts for Star Wars eps 7 through 9. He didn't seem to be liying to make himself look good or anything he genuinly believed that the scripts exist and his friend had copies. I had fun trying to explain that one to him.
 
I have a friend who reads all the same bogus rumors posted on IMDb that the rest of us read, but he thinks they're true more often than not. Recently I learned from him that Avatar 2 is already in post-production, because it was filmed during the shoot for the first one a la Lord of the Rings. Of course, this was all done without anybody at all ever hearing about it.
 
My ex-husband's brother wouldn't believe that corals were living creature. He said corals were made from rock. He argued with me over this. His wife looked it up in an encyclopedia and showed it to him. He insisted that the encyclopedia was wrong. However he was quite drunk at the time.
 
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