Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

[Neroon]

PKTrekGirl said:
I will say that I think B5 does really well with the concept of religion in general, you know?

Oh I wholeheartedly agree. Much better IMHO than Trek did for the most part. Very even-handed and effective.

And to think I almost gave up on the series after watching "Believers" in S1

 

[Jan]

I don't think JMS is much of an actor. He does religion and madmen particularly well....hmmm...<g>

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Neroon said:

PKTrekGirl said:
I will say that I think B5 does really well with the concept of religion in general, you know?

Oh I wholeheartedly agree. Much better IMHO than Trek did for the most part.

Agreed. *nods*

With the exception of DS9, Trek almost seemed 'afraid' of religion. B5 confronts it several times. And it is always below the surface with the Minbari.

 

[Neroon]

BTW.... did you catch one of the most important, seemingly throw-away lines? Lennier relating that Valen was thought to be "Minbari not born of Minbari"

 

[Neroon]

NOw we see Br. Edward recalling more memories..... and we begin to see that he may not be "Br. Edward" after all.

 

[Jan]

I love Brother Theo! Too bad we'll never see him again.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Neroon said:
BTW.... did you catch one of the most important, seemingly throw-away lines? Lennier relating that Valen was thought to be "Minbari not born of Minbari"

Oh yeah...I never miss that one!

 

[Jan]

I've always wondered if Theo knew who 'Edward' really was?

 

[Neroon]

Jan said:
I love Brother Theo! Too bad we'll never see him again.

Ah, ah, ah... not so fast. We DO see him one more time....

 

[Jan]

Sorry... I meant in any Lost Tales or something.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

By the way, just so you guys know...the black and white habits are very close to what the Dominican Order in the Catholic Church wear today.

 

[Neroon]

Jan said:
I've always wondered if Theo knew who 'Edward' really was?

Intriguing question. We never see that he knows he was Charlie Dexter. I think he may know he was once someone else. But this scene with Sheridan indicates he didn't really know anything about Br. Edward's real past

 

[PKTrekGirl]

One difference though - the religious orders in the Catholic Church do extensive background checks and also spend alot of time in meetings with the person, examining their ENTIRE pasts.

 

[Neroon]

PKTrekGirl said:
By the way, just so you guys know...the black and white habits are very close to what the Dominican Order in the Catholic Church wear today.

They seem to be brown as opposed to black.

Br. THeo said that since his order has little resources they can't afford to do much of a background check

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Neroon said:

PKTrekGirl said:
By the way, just so you guys know...the black and white habits are very close to what the Dominican Order in the Catholic Church wear today.

They seem to be brown as opposed to black.

Well if that is the case, then they are close to the Carmelites.

Even better!

 

[Jan]

Even Garibaldi wants to be gentle with Edward.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Do you guys think there was really blood on the wall? Or that he imagined it as his memories started to leak through?

 

[Jan]

They cover that - it was a chemical that disappears.

 

[Neroon]

Jan said:
Even Garibaldi wants to be gentle with Edward.

As intense a man as Garibaldi was, he could express moments of tenderness. Not often, but he could. And he can see Br. Edward is under duress. Makes you wonder later if he ever learned who Br. Edward really was, if he felt the same way about the "death of personality" vs the "death penalty"

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Jan said:
They cover that - it was a chemical that disappears.

Ah! Thanks!