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Nine reasons why Deep Space Nine is the best Star Trek

the mirror-universe episodes of ds9 are the biggest trash star trek ever produced, every single one of them.

Right, all five of them. Five episodes out of nearly two-hundred. :)

Besides, any objective observer will admit that the two Voyager Fairhaven episodes are the worst dreck while Threshold is the worst trash... :D
 
because his story isn't published, and he got sacked? that's racism?
No, the simple fact that it wasn't published isn't racism, but there was overt racism in that episode. Did you even watch that episode, or just the breakdown scene?
i also remember ole sisko hanging out on the streets in a black suit, and babbling something like "benny, follow the path of the prophets!". care to interpret? its relation to the plot escaped me.
 
the mirror-universe episodes of ds9 are the biggest trash star trek ever produced, every single one of them.

Right, all five of them. Five episodes out of nearly two-hundred. :)

Besides, any objective observer will admit that the two Voyager Fairhaven episodes are the worst dreck while Threshold is the worst trash... :D

Sorry to be perverse (hey, wait a minute, why should I be sorry?) but I love the Mirror Universe episodes and also (wait for it) Fairhaven. Great stuff.

(er, what is "Dreck" by the way?)
 
Besides, any objective observer will admit that the two Voyager Fairhaven episodes are the worst dreck while Threshold is the worst trash... :D
As an entirely objective viewer (dozens of my distant relatives starved to death around the time that the rosey and idealised Fairhaven was set) I think those episodes are some of the most racist episodes of Star Trek I've ever seen. It's on a par with black slavery, or the holocaust.

i also remember ole sisko hanging out on the streets in a black suit, and babbling something like "benny, follow the path of the prophets!". care to interpret? its relation to the plot escaped me.
When you watch episodes, do you skip every second scene, or something?
 
I was struck by the very first paragraph:

Born in the shadow of "Star Trek:The Next Generation" and obscured by the flashy launch of UPN and it's flagship series "Star Trek:Voyager" the syndicated "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine" had always been the Jan Brady of the "Trek" shows - caught in the middle and largely ignored.

Do fans of the show really feel that way? I'm just curious...
 
I don't, but I'm not American. Here, Sky One used to show both DS9 and Voyager in 6 month rotations, so they weren't competing against one another and the advertising campaign for both shows was the same. Also, in the Star Trek fan club I used to attend, and among my circle of friends, DS9 was the popular favourite, I didn't even know that there were Trek fans that disliked it or chose not to watch it until I read some internet forums many years later. The only bad thing I heard about DS9 until that point was that it wasn't as good as Babylon 5.


However, I have heard stories that in some markets in the US, DS9 was treated very poorly; had little to no marketing, was sometimes aired in the early hours of the morning, and was frequently pre-empted for local programming or sports. From what I've heard, while Voyager didn't have a cushy life on UPN, in many markets it had a much easier time of things than DS9, because DS9 didn't have the backing of being the network's flagship show.
 
However, I have heard stories that in some markets in the US, DS9 was treated very poorly; had little to no marketing, was sometimes aired in the early hours of the morning, and was frequently pre-empted for local programming or sports.

I don't know about the rest of the U.S., but where I live - northwest Ohio - that was very much the case.

DS9 was on the air when I was in high school, would air on Mondays, and would often get pre-empted for Monday Night Football games. When the game was over, they would often go straight to the local news - which was usually already in progress. That meant I had to catch re-runs during the week whenever I could.

Then, during the fifth season, my parents decided to switch cable companies - from a local carrier to Time Warner Cable. As a result, DS9 was then only shown at 2 A.M. So, I had to stop watching. :( It wasn't until about four years ago that I finally got to watch everything that came after The Darkness and the Light - when I finally bought all the DVDs. Though to be fair to VOY, Time Warner didn't carry UPN in my area at all. So I had to wait until I got those DVDs to watch all of its episodes after Fair Trade.

Voyager wasn't even trying to create a Wesley-type character. Its only kid was Naomi Wildman, but she had barely any appearances compared to Jake and Wesley.

Well, they did have Icheb - he was a Wesley-like character. But then again, he appeared in about half as many episodes as Naomi.
 
Do fans of the show really feel that way? I'm just curious...

It's not really a feeling. DS9 was not as popular or successful as TNG and was less heavily promoted than Voyager, which was conceived as the flagship show for UPN.

That side of things is concrete. Then there is the question of how Niners feel about that reality. Sometimes you do see some angst on the subject, but then there are a lot of fans who realize that DS9 is a great show partly because it was not the center of the studio's attention. Being overlooked and underpromoted can be a good thing, and almost certainly was in DS9's case.
 
TheGodBen Wrote
As an entirely objective viewer (dozens of my distant relatives starved to death around the time that the rosey and idealised Fairhaven was set) I think those episodes are some of the most racist episodes of Star Trek I've ever seen. It's on a par with black slavery, or the holocaust.

As someone with Irish ancestry I feel that that is an overreaction but you are entitled to your opinion.
 
As an entirely objective viewer (dozens of my distant relatives starved to death around the time that the rosey and idealised Fairhaven was set) I think those episodes are some of the most racist episodes of Star Trek I've ever seen. It's on a par with black slavery, or the holocaust.

Oh. Dear. Lord.
 
Being overlooked and underpromoted can be a good thing, and almost certainly was in DS9's case.

Yeah, it would have been great if the UPN suits could have been less interfering. They were so nervous about a woman captain that poor Mulgrew was subjected to so many hair alterations that she once joked she envied Patrick Steward his baldness. ;)
 
Being overlooked and underpromoted can be a good thing, and almost certainly was in DS9's case.

Yeah, it would have been great if the UPN suits could have been less interfering. They were so nervous about a woman captain that poor Mulgrew was subjected to so many hair alterations that she once joked she envied Patrick Steward his baldness. ;)

Totally forgetting Avery Brooks and DS9, as usual!

:p
 
Being overlooked and underpromoted can be a good thing, and almost certainly was in DS9's case.

Yeah, it would have been great if the UPN suits could have been less interfering. They were so nervous about a woman captain that poor Mulgrew was subjected to so many hair alterations that she once joked she envied Patrick Steward his baldness. ;)

Totally forgetting Avery Brooks and DS9, as usual!

:p
Well, Brooks was bald by choice.
 
Being overlooked and underpromoted can be a good thing, and almost certainly was in DS9's case.

Yeah, it would have been great if the UPN suits could have been less interfering. They were so nervous about a woman captain that poor Mulgrew was subjected to so many hair alterations that she once joked she envied Patrick Steward his baldness. ;)

Totally forgetting Avery Brooks and DS9, as usual!

:p
When Voyager started, Avery Brooks still had hair.
 
As someone with Irish ancestry I feel that that is an overreaction...
Do you think so? :shifty: Personally, I think that the brutal murder of 6,000,000 innocent people is comparable to a bad episode of a sci-fi show.

:rolleyes:
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What is that signature from, Jarod? I asked you in another thread but forgot what thread it was, so yeah.

Only paraphrased from the ending of Star Trek 2009. ;)

Do you think so? :shifty: Personally, I think that the brutal murder of 6,000,000 innocent people is comparable to a bad episode of a sci-fi show.

Oh Jesus fucking Christ. You compare the Holocaust to a bad TV episode?!?! You need help, seriously.
 
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