Nimoy saying Kirk is dead is the pot calling the katra black
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Re: A friendship ended
I have a hard time believing that their relationship would be challenged at this late date by this or that Trek-related payday. How would that work?
"Hi, Leonard."
"Hey, Bill! What's up?"
"Oh, the usual nonsense. Paramount Licensing called and offered me twenty grand to hawk an Enterprise-shaped Winnebago at the Pasadena RV Show. I told them I was busy."
"Really? They offered me that yesterday, for $35,000 upfront."
"WHAT?!"
"Yeah, it was nuts. I told them I wanted it in cash, they asked me which denomination. Just to fuck with 'em, I said I eat nothing but Hot Pockets, they threw in a case of Hot Pockets..."
"YOU SON OF A BITCH!"
I have a hard time believing that their relationship would be challenged at this late date by this or that Trek-related payday. How would that work?
"Hi, Leonard."
"Hey, Bill! What's up?"
"Oh, the usual nonsense. Paramount Licensing called and offered me twenty grand to hawk an Enterprise-shaped Winnebago at the Pasadena RV Show. I told them I was busy."
"Really? They offered me that yesterday, for $35,000 upfront."
"WHAT?!"
"Yeah, it was nuts. I told them I wanted it in cash, they asked me which denomination. Just to fuck with 'em, I said I eat nothing but Hot Pockets, they threw in a case of Hot Pockets..."
"YOU SON OF A BITCH!"
Re: Nimoly's motives
If they're still friends, why would Nimoy be so unsympathetic? Unless he's just a cold, stoic man.
If they're still friends, why would Nimoy be so unsympathetic? Unless he's just a cold, stoic man.
Re: Nimoly's motives
Nimoy really didn't say anything Shatner hadn't already said about the "inconvenience" of Kirk being dead.
What I always go back to is Shatner's discussion of a phone call he had with Nimoy months ago about the movie rumor. How Shatner reports it, he found out Nimoy not only knew of the movie, but already read the script and Shatner's not in it. That is incredible as in not believable.
Actually, both seem to have a rather flippant attitude about Shatner's non-appearance. I don't remember Nimoy ever saying anything like how it's regretful that Shatner's Kirk can't be worked in somehow. Or, that it would be nice to work with Bill in "Star Trek" one more time even though it can't happen.
As I see it, it's always had to be either:
A. Right from the first moment, Shatner was going to be in the film, but everyone decided it would be good publicity to be coy about it.
Or,
B. Right from the first moment, Shatner was NEVER going to be in the film, but everyond decided it would be good publicity to be coy about it.
Nimoy really didn't say anything Shatner hadn't already said about the "inconvenience" of Kirk being dead.
What I always go back to is Shatner's discussion of a phone call he had with Nimoy months ago about the movie rumor. How Shatner reports it, he found out Nimoy not only knew of the movie, but already read the script and Shatner's not in it. That is incredible as in not believable.
Actually, both seem to have a rather flippant attitude about Shatner's non-appearance. I don't remember Nimoy ever saying anything like how it's regretful that Shatner's Kirk can't be worked in somehow. Or, that it would be nice to work with Bill in "Star Trek" one more time even though it can't happen.
As I see it, it's always had to be either:
A. Right from the first moment, Shatner was going to be in the film, but everyone decided it would be good publicity to be coy about it.
Or,
B. Right from the first moment, Shatner was NEVER going to be in the film, but everyond decided it would be good publicity to be coy about it.
Re: Nimoly's motives
Honestly, this whole thing sounds like a redicuous put on to me. First off, other than a writers strike that's probably going to be resolved by Christmas, there's no reason that Kirk can't be in the movie. You don't even have to resurect old Kirk. Just a holodeck thing on Romulus would be fine -- Spock is explaining the Enterprise history, and later calls up an 80-year old Kirkogram. Not even complicated.
And yet we're getting tons on nonsequitor crying on both sides. Shat wants to be in the movie but he isn't (allegedly), Nimoy claiming that it's just too hard (when we mere amatuers have 3,675,213+ ways to do so), Abrams is pissed because all the talk about the role of Shat is actually generating talk about his movie. It's all just too cute. The only thing missing is for Shat to somehow come down with some horrible disease and have being in Trek XI his dying wish. That should come about March 08, I think. Hopefully it won't be bone-itis, but I'm far from convinced that this little controversy isn't a publicity stunt.
Honestly, this whole thing sounds like a redicuous put on to me. First off, other than a writers strike that's probably going to be resolved by Christmas, there's no reason that Kirk can't be in the movie. You don't even have to resurect old Kirk. Just a holodeck thing on Romulus would be fine -- Spock is explaining the Enterprise history, and later calls up an 80-year old Kirkogram. Not even complicated.
And yet we're getting tons on nonsequitor crying on both sides. Shat wants to be in the movie but he isn't (allegedly), Nimoy claiming that it's just too hard (when we mere amatuers have 3,675,213+ ways to do so), Abrams is pissed because all the talk about the role of Shat is actually generating talk about his movie. It's all just too cute. The only thing missing is for Shat to somehow come down with some horrible disease and have being in Trek XI his dying wish. That should come about March 08, I think. Hopefully it won't be bone-itis, but I'm far from convinced that this little controversy isn't a publicity stunt.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
3,675,213 amateurish ways, yeah.
3,675,213 amateurish ways, yeah.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
Eh. Give credit where credit is due, 41 of them were pretty good. Even so, that's just NOT what this movie is about.
Well, not really, anyway. Except if AICN is correct, then Spock does bring Kirk back to life by setting the timeline straight and seeing to it that Kirk is born in the first place. So, the 62 or so years Kirk did get are all because of Spock.
Eh. Give credit where credit is due, 41 of them were pretty good. Even so, that's just NOT what this movie is about.
Well, not really, anyway. Except if AICN is correct, then Spock does bring Kirk back to life by setting the timeline straight and seeing to it that Kirk is born in the first place. So, the 62 or so years Kirk did get are all because of Spock.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
Jesus Christ people. This is Star Trek where people come back from the dead and turn into insects and about a million other totally illogical things happen.
Shatner could be brought back as Kirk very easily. Espically when you consider they are using a time travel device like the Guardian of Forever.
Jesus Christ people. This is Star Trek where people come back from the dead and turn into insects and about a million other totally illogical things happen.
Shatner could be brought back as Kirk very easily. Espically when you consider they are using a time travel device like the Guardian of Forever.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
GEN can be ignored if necessary.
No big deal.
GEN can be ignored if necessary.
No big deal.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
My personal favorite was the geometrical cubes.
"Some are strong ..."
<squeezes cube, it is solid>
"...while others are weak."
<squeezes other cube, it turns to dust>
That shit right there freaked me out when I was a kid.
My personal favorite was the geometrical cubes.
"Some are strong ..."
<squeezes cube, it is solid>
"...while others are weak."
<squeezes other cube, it turns to dust>
That shit right there freaked me out when I was a kid.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
I can't believe people are actually acting like it would take alot of thought and be a big involved process to find a way for Shatner to be Kirk in this movie. This is a movie about people mucking about with the timeline for goodness sake.
All it would take is a moment where Spock, having gone back in time, has a brief debate with himself about whether to honor all he's been taught about not screwing with the timeline or going ahead and saving his friend, then deciding that "the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many," and slipping young Kirk a warning. At the end of the film, boom, Kirk is alive and old Kirk and old Spock share one final touching scene.
A total of two minutes of screen time, no derailing of the plot, no need for "The Search for Kirk," no need to fill the film with technobabble that non-fans won't like. And yet you get one final touching moment that the die hard fans will appreciate.
Frankly, the only obstacle I can see to this is if Shatner is sincere in saying that he won't do a cameo and, essentially, would only be in the movie if his Kirk was central to the plot. Then this method wouldn't work because Shatner's part would amount to a cameo.
But it could be done.
Unless, as more people are beginning to think, this is all a publicity stunt anyway...
I can't believe people are actually acting like it would take alot of thought and be a big involved process to find a way for Shatner to be Kirk in this movie. This is a movie about people mucking about with the timeline for goodness sake.
All it would take is a moment where Spock, having gone back in time, has a brief debate with himself about whether to honor all he's been taught about not screwing with the timeline or going ahead and saving his friend, then deciding that "the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many," and slipping young Kirk a warning. At the end of the film, boom, Kirk is alive and old Kirk and old Spock share one final touching scene.
A total of two minutes of screen time, no derailing of the plot, no need for "The Search for Kirk," no need to fill the film with technobabble that non-fans won't like. And yet you get one final touching moment that the die hard fans will appreciate.
Frankly, the only obstacle I can see to this is if Shatner is sincere in saying that he won't do a cameo and, essentially, would only be in the movie if his Kirk was central to the plot. Then this method wouldn't work because Shatner's part would amount to a cameo.
But it could be done.
Unless, as more people are beginning to think, this is all a publicity stunt anyway...
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
Mainly folks who consider themselves so sharp, skeptical and sophisticated that obvious truths often elude them.
Mainly folks who consider themselves so sharp, skeptical and sophisticated that obvious truths often elude them.
Re: Leonard Nimoy in Star Trek: Shatless
Am I the only one that prefers a Shat-free Trekfreshening?
Am I the only one that prefers a Shat-free Trekfreshening?
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