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NFL 2019 Season

Nope, even that's not really the answer. Other teams get caught just as often, but it's not a big scandal when the Pats aren't attached to it. Remember the court cases around the DeflateGate scandal when the Steelers and Giants played? Me either, because it didn't happen, not even a fine if I recall correctly. Or all of the draft picks Denver lost for SpyGate2? Nope, small fine. Remember when Tomlin got thrown out of the league for going onto the field of play and tripping a player during a game? Right...

Not that no one gets caught doing things, it's just that it's only a Supreme Court Case (sometimes literally) when you can attach Belichick or Brady's name to it.
 
Alright, here's the bottom line about the Pats, at least for me.

It's not that people hate them for cheating (although that doesn't help, and the things they have been caught with have been quite cinematic), because clearly there are worse offenders, including my guys. Quite simply, it's the years-long culture of arrogance that surrounds them, particularly exuding from Belichik and Brady - the fish stinks from the head-down. At the height of their greatness, when they would win a game, it's not enough just to beat their opponent, they must CRUSH the living SHIT out of them! PUNISH them for daring to come into THEIR house (even if it was an away game for them - then they were even worse). I've lost count of the number of Pats games I've seen that had a MASSIVE score ratio disparity, when they kept all their 1st stringers on the field the whole game, just to prove a point to everyone in the world that they are unstoppable juggernauts. No replacing the top guys with backups to slow things down, no knee-taking or victory formations in the final seconds of the game - they had to keep pushing for that next TD to shove the other team's faces in the dirt one more time.

We all get it! Yeah, they're the tits (or, they were) but they just won't fucking stop being asshats about it ALL THE TIME. It's poor sportsmanship, plain and simple and people are tired of seeing it coming from the same fetid cesspool that is Baaaaahhston, home of quite possibly the most annoying inner-city accents and highest incidence of vehicular manslaughter in the country. They ain't all that and a bag of chips there, I tells ya!

So, when they get taken down a peg or twenty by an historically inferior team, you bet your sweet ass I want to see Brady get bent over backwards in a blitz scrum! I want to see him cry, pout and throw is helmet into a full Gatorade table like a little bitch on national TV (provided it wasn't already knocked off his fool head and kicked down-field for 25 yards) and show us all the uncontrolled anguish he delivered upon hundreds of others. It's called schadenfreude, and it is the sweetest word in all of the over-engineered German vocabulary.

And there's exactly zero amount of apologism or excuses that will change that for literally everyone outside the Boston city limits.

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Well, as long as you’re admitting it’s irrational and has nothing to do with the scandals real and imagined, and more about perception and butt hurt for past losses and how Brady looked pretty doing it :lol:
 
To pick at an example for fun: Say you’re up 20 (or whatever). It’s 3rd and 5, you’re in fairly easy FG range. Which is running up the score: kicking the easy FG for 3 points, or going for the 1st down?

I remember them being criticized for going for the 1st down, but doesn’t that at least give the other team a chance to stop them, and maybe not score, rather than just adding 3 automatic points? Also at least usually a running play to keep the clock moving along.

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team go into victory formation with 10 minutes to play in a game, I’d think 3 kneels and a punt would be massively insulting to the opponent if it wasn’t the obvious final downs of the game. And seen plenty of games where sad sacks lose by 20, 30, 40 points. At some point, not fair to ask one team to stop playing if the other one intends to keep trying. If it’s a blow out and the team wants the mercy rule, fine. But if you intend to keep trying to win, fair for the other team to keep trying to stop that from happening. Only concession that a team should make is maybe to lay off the trick plays and run the ball more to eat clock and get it over with faster.

I’d rather see Brady on the bench when they’re up big, but at least acknowledge that stamina, full 60 min, all that crap has paid off in plenty of big games late in seasons. Pissed when someone gets hurt in a blowout, but outside of the QB, not a lot of second stringers to run out anyway, so someone has to play and people get hurt when you ask them to half-ass it or play out of position.

just think it’s another perceived arrogance when I’m not sure what the acceptable answer would be (other than somehow lose while getting all star players injured)
 
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Alternatively, ask Atlanta how big a lead you should have before you start going easy on the other team. Is ‘up by 25 at almost the 4th quarter’ a safe lead? You’d argue that Atlanta should have stopped trying and. It embarrassed the Pats, but I bet they wish they’d put another TD up when they had a chance. Dick move to try and win by 40, but....
 
I'm sure they are. At least long enough that he can't hook onto a team this year. Pats have said they wouldn't resign him, but back of my head still says the NFL is delaying it just in case they change their minds, as they don't want to see it help the Pats if at all possible.

But mostly sticking it to AB because he's a moron and deserves it at this point. Million dollar hands, 5 cent head.


Edit: No one wanted to take a crack at my Running up the Score question? Makes sense, as while it's used as a talking point, never seen what the 'right' answer was supposed to be, so may not be one.
 
Scout101 said:
I'm sure they are. At least long enough that he can't hook onto a team this year. Pats have said they wouldn't resign him, but back of my head still says the NFL is delaying it just in case they change their minds, as they don't want to see it help the Pats if at all possible.
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Any player added to a roster now, is ineligible for the playoffs I believe.
 
Know there was something about the end of November, as they beat it to death with Gronk talk. Didn't know if it was any different for non-retired players, or the weird category AB is in for players that had games on the roster for the same team that season...
 
@Scout101 My personal "beef" with the Patriots relates to their vaunted game plans and 2nd - half "adjustments" both of which have repeatedly been praised as being genius level dissections of the opposing team's strengths and weaknesses.
You know what strengthens your ability to game-plan?
Illicit collection of information.
Of course the argument will be - "It ain't wrong if you don't get caught" but I find that a cynical and irritating world view.

Pair that with a fanbase with a hoodie sized chip on their shoulder.... it certainly encourages the kind of open ridicule and rush to judgment that the Patriots "suffer" from each season.
It will also heighten the intensity of schadenfreude the rest of us will experience when Brady retires and the wheels come off.
 
Ah, the age-old question: how much talent does someone need to have to move the boundaries beyond the point that people won’t care about how much of a dumpster fire your life really is off-field? The answer is usually “a metric fuck-ton”, but sometimes even that isn’t enough.
 
Jaguars VP Tom Coughlin got the axe today. I imagine Caldwell and Marrone won't be far behind.
 
There goes another franchise that's in the process of being crowned The Next Big Thing and turtles about halfway through the coronation to go back to being the dumpster fire you know and love... :lol:
 
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