NFL 2018 Season
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The Bears may have pulled off a trade for Khalil Mack
The pieces really are in place.
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The Bears give Khalil Mack a six-year, $141 million extension ($90M guaranteed).
Man I hope this doesn't come back to bite us on the a$$ and he ends up as the Bears' version of Edwin Jackson or Alfonso Soriano. We gave up a pile of draft picks, and now a ton of money.
Man I hope this doesn't come back to bite us on the a$$ and he ends up as the Bears' version of Edwin Jackson or Alfonso Soriano. We gave up a pile of draft picks, and now a ton of money.
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That moment you realise every team in the NFCN is better than half the AFC.
I read that the Raiders have only 7 million in cap space left. If true then either the Raiders never had any intention of extending Mack or that is some of the worst cap management in history. It could also be a Gruden move, meaning he thinks he has something on defense that doesn't need a Khalil Mack. 
As ot the end of last season, Mack was our BEST player and that includes Derek Carr.
Granted, during the preseason, the defense did look a lot better, but you just don't trade a generational talent like Mack -- especially when he is still in his prime. Don't know what they got in return (except for the 2 firsts) but whatever it was, this could still turn out to be the worst deal of the 21st century.
Remains to be seen if this is the morale killer it appears to be. We'll see next Monday night.
As ot the end of last season, Mack was our BEST player and that includes Derek Carr. Granted, during the preseason, the defense did look a lot better, but you just don't trade a generational talent like Mack -- especially when he is still in his prime. Don't know what they got in return (except for the 2 firsts) but whatever it was, this could still turn out to be the worst deal of the 21st century.
Remains to be seen if this is the morale killer it appears to be. We'll see next Monday night.
This year, unless something weird happens, it'll be the Jags and Texans controlling the AFC South. While my Texans look good, I fear their lack of talent on the o-line and RB will hurt them. Watson has some good receivers to throw to, and our defense IF (may I repeat IF here) IF it remains healthy is as good as the Jags. JJ Watt is just not the same anymore unfortunately. The Texans will probably do what they seem good at, make it to the playoffs and exit early.
I think the Jags will win the division, but I don't see any of the teams from the AFC South getting to the Super Bowl this year. Watson has the potential to do for us what Manning did for yall, but that remains to be seen.
If Luck is in good health and fully recovered, you guys will win some games just on that alone. Since the Titans are actually the ex-Oilers (who broke my heart) I hope they end up in last place. The Titans head coach will probably show just how raw and green he is at this. He was a good LB coach for the Texans, a pathetic Defensive coordinator, and now a head coach in just a few years? I think the Titans seriously jumped the gun on that decision.
I read that the Raiders have only 7 million in cap space left. If true then either the Raiders never had any intention of extending Mack or that is some of the worst cap management in history. It could also be a Gruden move, meaning he thinks he has something on defense that doesn't need a Khalil Mack.
I think this deal was about more than cap space, I think it was about Mark Davis not having the cash flow to make the deal happen. Gruden should've probably probed the Raiders financial situation before jumping on board. It is never good when you're paying a fired coach $4 million a year and your new coach $10 million a year.
I keep reading this, but I don't see how it's possible. If this was true, it would mean the Raiders don't have the money to fill out the salary cap. That cannot be. If it's true that they only had 7 million in cap space says that the team had all but 7 million to fill out the cap. So why didn't they get Mack's deal done first which woud have would have let them know how much money they had left for other players?
The Raiders are working with the same cap the Rams were and they somehow fit Aaron Donald into it. Just because Kroenke is a billionaire, he can't spend any more money on players than anyone else. It's a hard cap so everyone's working under the same restrictions.
Maybe Davis had a problem with the long term guaranteed money (although that's covered by the cap as well), but I think it's Gruden. He has this idea of the kind of player he wants on his team, regardless of talent.
Making decisions like this, his ass better be Bill Bellichick, because if not, the boos and empty seats are going to be the stuff of nightmares for him.
Not really though. Those huge signing bonuses, while pro-rated, usually come due within three or four weeks of the signing. If you give someone a $50 million dollar signing bonus, yes you'll get that money from revenue sharing over the course of two or three years, but I imagine for someone like Davis whose wealth comes strictly from the Raiders, that money is much tougher to come up with.
And he had just done a huge deal with Derek Carr last year. Who just picked up a $15 million dollars roster bonus in March, in addition to a $12.5 million dollars signing bonus last year coupled with a $7.5 million dollar roster bonus. In a little more than a year, Carr has picked up $35 million in bonuses.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-raiders/derek-carr-14445/
Another note on the Raiders cash flow. They are going to be paying a $378 million dollar relocation fee, spread over ten years, to the NFL. They will end up getting back about $40 million dollars from the Rams/Chargers relocation fees. Which will end up as $4 million a season going into their coffers.
They also borrowed $650 million dollars from Bank of America for their portion of the new Vegas stadium being built.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...rtedly-face-378m-relocation-fee-to-las-vegas/
Mark Davis better hope Vegas takes to the Raiders, or else he's liable to go bankrupt.
They also borrowed $650 million dollars from Bank of America for their portion of the new Vegas stadium being built.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/sport...rtedly-face-378m-relocation-fee-to-las-vegas/
Mark Davis better hope Vegas takes to the Raiders, or else he's liable to go bankrupt.
Very nice! That has "family heirloom" written all over it.
In my headcanon Tark hit Sammy White for 40 and Plunkett takes a nose dive.
I don't know why people go on and on about Mark Davis' personal wealth. It really is not a factor when it comes to the Raiders' players' salaries.
Signing bonuses are still covered under the salary cap which means that the Raiders have the same ability to re-sign their own players as every other team. The salary cap is there to protect owners like Mark, who don't have vast fortunes to work with. I have no doubt that the Raiders had the revenue to pay players up to the total of whatever the cap was this season, including at least one large partially guaranteed prorated signing bonus, despite what they did with Carr last season.
What I continue to believe is that the Raiders made up their minds early on that they didn't need Mack and that is the reason they used all but 7 million of their cap space (if the 7 mil figure is correct). Either that or perhaps they miscalculated the way they structured Carr's contract. If this was the case, that is just bad cap management.
I believe, like most, that this was a Gruden move. He wanted the two firsts in order to re-form the team in his "image".
Not having Jerry Jones or Stan Kroenke money doesn't affect Mark Davis' ability to sign top talent. It does prevent him from doing stuff like personally financing multi billion dollar stadiums, although the league did give him 75 million to further that end.
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None of the above has anything to do with player salaries. The money to fill out the cap (player salaries) is separate, or should be separate.
Again, these are expenses separate from player salaries. Also I suspect they borrowed the money from BofA, likely at a reduced interest since BofA is their partner in the stadium deal, for tax purposes, since as I mentioned in my previous post, the NFL gave Mark 750 million for a a new stadium.
The stadium deal and the move are a done deal. Nothing could stop that except some type of natural disaster. Mark Davis might go bankrupt personally, but the Raiders won't. The league would force him to sell the team before that happened and frankly, at this point, I would welcome that eventuality.
It isn't about the salary cap, it is about cash flow. Which are two distinct things. Khalil Mack is going to get $41 million this year, something I guarantee Davis couldn't do. Because they could have easily converted some other salaries to bonuses to make Such a deal fit into their cap. Mack was already taking up $13+ million dollars in cap space.
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