next generation mirror

[Orphalesion]

I 've wondered more than once why TNG was the only series that didn't have a "evil mirror crew" episode of some kind. TOS, DS9, and ËNT had the mirror universe, VOY not, but had the holosimulation of "Living Witness". TNG only had Lore (ok, and Thomas Riker but he wasn't exactly evil).

I read they didn't want to make one unless they could figure out a new spin on it, and they didn't manage to do that until DS9's mirror episodes. And the world depicted in those made a "mirror Enterprise-D" difficult, since the Terran empire had fallen and all.
Also Voyage didn't have one either.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

As long as they make him a bisexual BDSM fan like they did with Kira

Not really. That kind of thing is what irks me about the DS9 Mirror Universe episodes - queer mentions and depictions are being portrayed as "rotten Mirror Universe abnormalities", equating queer with "evil, scheming, sinful, etc" while the Prime Universe characters are all "nice and heterosexual". It sends a more than just terrrible message.

I would only be okay with this if Prime Jean-Luc was canonically bisexual as well. Then yes, sure thing, go ahead.

 

[Jayson1]

I 've wondered more than once why TNG was the only series that didn't have a "evil mirror crew" episode of some kind. TOS, DS9, and ËNT had the mirror universe, VOY not, but had the holosimulation of "Living Witness". TNG only had Lore (ok, and Thomas Riker but he wasn't exactly evil).

Most likely because Berman hated TOS and didn't want to really use much of anything from it because he saw it as a cheesy 60's kids show. I'm pretty sure anytime anything TOS related was used was because someone ended up having to talk him into doing it. Except for maybe Spock. That was also doubling as promotion for Star Trek 6.

Jason

 

[Jayson1]

Not really. That kind of thing is what irks me about the DS9 Mirror Universe episodes - queer mentions and depictions are being portrayed as "rotten Mirror Universe abnormalities", equating queer with "evil, scheming, sinful, etc" while the Prime Universe characters are all "nice and heterosexual". It sends a more than just terrrible message.

I would only be okay with this if Prime Jean-Luc was canonically bisexual as well. Then yes, sure thing, go ahead.

I don't think they were going for evil. They were going for kinky. Also in away it's kind of something that I think happened by accident. I don't think Kira was suppose to be hot and bothered by real Kira but that is how it sort of played on screen so they then ran with it in the more campy but fun follow ups. The first mirror universe episode though actually is played straight(pun intended.)


Jason

 

[Roboturner913]

I always read it more like people in the Mirror Universe just kind of let it all hang out. It's not only their sexuality that's exaggerated, it's everything. Anger, greed, love, lust, hate, everything's dialed up to 11.

At one point I had written up a whole long-winded deal about how the MU isn't really inherently "evil" at all, but it was that people - in particular, humans/Terrans, brains weren't wired in a way that allowed them to control their emotions as well as people in the prime ST universe were, which naturally led to a lot of trouble. I cringe to think about how far down the rabbit hole I went with it, but when you step back and look at it in the big picture it still seems like a fair assessment.

 

[Batai]

Not really. That kind of thing is what irks me about the DS9 Mirror Universe episodes - queer mentions and depictions are being portrayed as "rotten Mirror Universe abnormalities", equating queer with "evil, scheming, sinful, etc" while the Prime Universe characters are all "nice and heterosexual". It sends a more than just terrrible message.

I would only be okay with this if Prime Jean-Luc was canonically bisexual as well. Then yes, sure thing, go ahead.

Maybe it's a matter of how you look at it. If mirror Kira is really rotten to the core, she might be willing to pretend to be bisexual for the purposes of exerting more power over women.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Not really. That kind of thing is what irks me about the DS9 Mirror Universe episodes - queer mentions and depictions are being portrayed as "rotten Mirror Universe abnormalities", equating queer with "evil, scheming, sinful, etc" while the Prime Universe characters are all "nice and heterosexual". It sends a more than just terrrible message.

I would only be okay with this if Prime Jean-Luc was canonically bisexual as well. Then yes, sure thing, go ahead.

My post was meant to be sarcastic. You are completly right about how they portayed it in DS9 as being a sort of deviant trait which is shameful

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

You should probably check out Diane Duane's 1994 novel Dark Mirror. It's fantastic.

Dark Mirror is an awesome book that would have made a great 2-part episode, with a little bit of paring down. I've read it at least 3-4 times, probably going to read it again soon.

I haven't read that one since it came out, but remember it was a damn good book.