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News Next Arrowverse Crossover to Include Batwoman

Danlav05 said:
Wonder if this'll show up in Crisis...? (though can people actually move in this thing?)

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I don't know, I would think if they were going to bring in something from an earlier movie or show, they would stick to stuff that got made, that people have an attachment to. I could see something from Lois & Clark, Smallville, or even the Christopher Reeves movies popping up before I'd expect that to show up.
 
JD said:
I don't know, I would think if they were going to bring in something from an earlier movie or show, they would stick to stuff that got made, that people have an attachment to. I could see something from Lois & Clark, Smallville, or even the Christopher Reeves movies popping up before I'd expect that to show up.
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Or all of the above?
 
I still think people are missing the point by expecting the Arrowverse to copy the comics Crisis's use of the Golden Age Superman. That character wasn't used arbitrarily, but due to his established history and connections in the comics, which don't exist in the Arrowverse. The closest equivalent in that regard is the character we already met in "Elseworlds," the Flash of Earth-90.
 
What about Green Arrow. Not only is he kind of Batman isn't he sort off the Superman as well of the Arrowverse? He is were his entire franchise basically got started. Heck we even use his name in how will describe these shows by calling it the ARROWverse.


Jason
 
Green Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl are the Arrowverse's trinity. Arguably with Arrow as Batman's equivalent and Supergirl being being Superman's (does that make Barry Wonder Woman?!)

Superman is a supporting player, not the main man - they've adapted some of his stories for Kara and she is the inspiration for the Legion of Super Heroes, not Clark.
 
Jayson1 said:
What about Green Arrow. Not only is he kind of Batman isn't he sort off the Superman as well of the Arrowverse? He is were his entire franchise basically got started. Heck we even use his name in how will describe these shows by calling it the ARROWverse.
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Well, technically, but it was The Flash that transformed the universe from a grounded, street-level vigilante drama into the full-fledged comic-book universe it became. It's through The Flash that we got crossovers, superpowers (other than Mirakuru), colorful costumes, time travel, the Multiverse, etc. So the Flash is as much a foundational figure in the universe as the Green Arrow is.

So, yeah, technically Oliver beat Barry to the screen by a year or two, just as Superman beat Batman to the page by a year. But functionally, in both cases, the two characters are collectively the founders of their respective superhero communities; they're the oldest veterans, they're the closest duo, and one has powers and the other doesn't. So which one came first is an academic distinction. For all intents and purposes, Green Arrow is the Batman of the Arrowverse, Flash is the Superman, and Supergirl is the Wonder Woman, and yes, that looks really clumsy typed out, but you know what I mean.

Besides, what we're talking about here is an earlier version of a character from an older continuity that's been folded into the current continuity as an alternate Earth, which is what the Golden Age Superman was for the pre-Crisis DC Universe. As of "Elseworlds," we can now say that the 1990 The Flash is essentially the oldest Arrowverse series.
 
I was thinking about how the multiple earths could represent different retro DC screen versions. I am aware we will be lucky to get even half of it, as the Arrowverse has their own characters they’ll want to showcase:

BATMAN 66: Burt Ward and Julie Newmar are still with us, maybe they could cameo as elderly Dick Grayson and Selina Kyle morning their Batman’s loss?

WONDER WOMAN 77: Lynda Carter has already appeared in Supergirl as Olivia Marsdin

DONNER’S SUPERMAN: Marc McClure cameoed in Justice League and Helen Slater Is Supergirl’s adoptive mom in that series.

SUPERBOY: According to imdb John Haymes Newton seems to be more active as an actor than Gerard Christopher

BURTON/SCHUMACHER’S BATMAN: A long shot - Michael Keaton’s film career seems to be in the rise again, Chris O’Donnell is on NBC, the rest are either too big stars or retired (Jack Nicholson)

THE FLASH OF EARTH-90: Established in Elseworlds, John Wesley Shipp returned as an alternate Barry, he could return? Amanda Pays, Alex Desert, Vito D’Ambrosio and Mark Hamill have all played Earth-1 characters of their 1990 characters. Someone suggested Hamill could play his Joker in live action which would be super cool!

LOIS & CLARK: Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher have both completely different characters on Supergirl. They have both expressed interest in doing a ’25 years later’ Lois & Clark thing but WB/DC are obviously doing different things with Superman. An appearance as their original roles on COIE would be nice

SMALLVILLE: Erica Durance and Laura Vandervoort have different roles on Supergirl. Stephen Amell made social media go crazy when he posted a picture with Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum, but that turned out to be a meeting for his wine company. How cool would it be if they could finally get Welling in a Super suit? Also Alexander Luthor was a major player in the original Crisis comic book.

BIRDS OF PREY – An obscure one, about Oracle, Huntress and Black Canary protecting ‘New Gotham’ from crime. Batman disappeared after Catwoman’s death at the hands of the Joker, voiced by Mark Hamill.

THE DARK KNIGHT LEGACY: Aren’t all the stars too big for a CW show?

SUPERMAN RETURNS: Brandon Routh is of course The Atom on Legends of Tomrrow, a well established character. I doubt they’d able to get any other main actors back.

OTHERS: Gotham ends this year and the DC Universe streaming service is already building its own universe of shows. To get more obscure, there were also Swamp Thing and Human Target shows. Also a Superman allegedly built for Tim Burton’s Superman Lives (but worn for the 2003 FlyBy screen tests by Henry Cavill and Brandon Routh) was taken out of the archives for a recent DC Daily. It’d be cool to establish it on screen here, it’s well-known in fan circles from leaked photographs.
 
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Danlav05 said:
[FONT=Roboto]I was thinking about how the multiple earths could represent different retro DC screen versions. I am aware we will be lucky to get even half of it, as the Arrowverse has their own characters they’ll want to showcase:

BATMAN 66: Burt Ward and Julie Newmar are still with us, maybe they could cameo as elderly Dick Grayson and Selina Kyle morning their Batman’s loss?

WONDER WOMAN 77: Lynda Carter has already appeared in Supergirl as Olivia Marsdin

DONNER’S SUPERMAN: Marc McClure cameoed in Justice League and Helen Slater Is Supergirl’s adoptive mom in that series.

SUPERBOY: According to imdb John Haymes Newton seems to be more active as an actor than Gerard Christopher

BURTON/SCHUMACHER’S BATMAN: A long shot - Michael Keaton’s film career seems to be in the rise again, Chris O’Donnell is on NBC, the rest are either too big stars or retired (Jack Nicholson)

THE FLASH OF EARTH-90: Established in Elseworlds, John Wesley Shipp returned as an alternate Barry, he could return? Amanda Pays, Alex Desert, Vito D’Ambrosio and Mark Hamill have all played Earth-1 characters of their 1990 characters. Someone suggested Hamill could play his Joker in live action which would be super cool!

LOIS & CLARK: Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher have both completely different characters on Supergirl. They have both expressed interest in doing a ’25 years later’ Lois & Clark thing but WB/DC are obviously doing different things with Superman. An appearance as their original roles on COIE would be nice

SMALLVILLE: Erica Durance and Laura Vandervoort have different roles on Supergirl. Stephen Amell made social media go crazy when he posted a picture with Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum, but that turned out to be a meeting for his wine company. How cool would it be if they could finally get Welling in a Super suit? Also Alexander Luthor was a major player in the original Crisis comic book.

BIRDS OF PREY – An obscure one, about Oracle, Huntress and Black Canary protecting ‘New Gotham’ from crime. Batman disappeared after Catwoman’s death at the hands of the Joker, voiced by Mark Hamill.

THE DARK KNIGHT LEGACY: Aren’t all the stars too big for a CW show?

SUPERMAN RETURNS: Brandon Routh is of course The Atom on Legends of Tomrrow, a well established character. I doubt they’d able to get any other main actors back.

OTHERS: Gotham ends this year and the DC Universe streaming service is already building its own universe of shows. To get more obscure, there were also Swamp Thing and Human Target shows. Also a Superman allegedly built for Tim Burton’s Superman Lives (but worn for the 2003 FlyBy screen tests by Henry Cavill and Brandon Routh) was taken out of the archives for a recent DC Daily. It’d be cool to establish it on screen here, it’s well-known in fan circles from leaked photographs.[/FONT]
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The formatting on your post isn’t working for me, all I can see is the tags.

N-121973 said:
how come Sherloque Wells didn't see Barry & Oliver the way the Earth-38ers did?
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Had he met them before?

Greg Cox said:
an Arrow-cave,
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Should have called it the Quiver
 
JD said:
He was also a resident of Arkham City in the game, but that wasn't just for the mentally ill, it was for all criminals.
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In the Arkham Asylum game, IIRC there was a mention in some of the flavor-text that Arkham was also serving as a prison for "special-needs" convicts like Mr. Freeze, rather than forcing Blackgate to build refrigerated cells and whatnot, when Arkham was already set up for making accommodations for their superpowered patients.

Though, in Arkham City, I don't think Penguin was arrested, but chose to stay when the project, by what I'm sure is pure coincidence, happened to envelop the Iceberg Lounge. On the other hand, I'm not sure he would've gone free too long if it hadn't. Something about his monocle being a bottle that was stabbed into his face suggests he's not the most legitimate version of Cobblepot we've ever seen.
 
Glad to here about the pilot order, I find it hard to believe it won't go on to a series.
 
I think it's inevitable that it'll be picked up.

I think the thing that remains to be seen is whether or not it simply gets added to the roster or becomes a replacement for Arrow.
 
CorporalClegg said:
I think it's inevitable that it'll be picked up.

I think the thing that remains to be seen is whether or not it simply gets added to the roster or becomes a replacement for Arrow.
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or maybe as a mid-season/summer replacement or even in the day and age of streaming is the ratings season/off-season obsession still dominant?
 
CorporalClegg said:
I think it's inevitable that it'll be picked up.

I think the thing that remains to be seen is whether or not it simply gets added to the roster or becomes a replacement for Arrow.
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I've been wondering about that. Back when they announced Black Lightning the head of The CW said they weren't going to have more than 5 Arrowverse shows at one time, so I was a bit surprised when they announced Batwoman.
 
Huzzah! Batwoman is the best thing to come out to the Arrowverse since the Flash, and I love most of everything the Arrowverse has done.
 
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