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News Next Arrowverse Crossover to Include Batwoman

Not at all. Being in different universes isn't stopping characters from getting together for the same story. Convenience would not be altered in the slightest.
I mean as a way to get an Earth with all the heroes together. Thus making a proper JL later on.
 
I mean as a way to get an Earth with all the heroes together. Thus making a proper JL later on.
Does it have to move towards a regular Justice League with everybody hanging out in the same Hall of Justice or whatever on the same Earth? What exactly would the upside of that be, besides checking off a box?
 
I saw Firestorm, Hawkgirl’s helmet, a green arrow wearing a more comic style outfit, I think Red Tornado

Who was that superhero from Earth X, the one who married Snart? Wasn't his helmet there as well?
 
^ The "altered reality" in question is Earth-1, though, so that's not the same thing as having to rewrite the established rules of the Arrowverse's internal Multiverse.

Also: the Arrowverse does not "rewrite the rules of time travel whenever they feel like it".

You're right; they have no rules of time travel to *begin* with......
 
It's a fictional concept to begin with, how could there be rules for something that's made-up?

Internally consistent rules.... are usually beneficial to stable world building.... even in something thats made up. But I'm not rehashing this entire argument.....
 
Who was that superhero from Earth X, the one who married Snart? Wasn't his helmet there as well?

The Ray. Yes. But it was probably the Earth-90 doppelganger of the Ray.

Speaking of worldbuilding consistency, they've obviously swept last year's problematical "There are only 53 Earths" assertion under the rug, since clearly there are at least 91 (since Earth-X doesn't have a number). That was a pretty random retcon to begin with, so I'm not surprised they ditched it.


According to Entertainment Weekly, the tag scene was originally shot plotted to be one of two cold opens of next week's Flash episode (i.e. "Elseworlds, Part I"), but they decided it would be less cluttered and a better setup to use it as a tag scene the previous week. Apparently the same scene will be shown at the end of this week's Arrow and Flash as well, for the benefit of viewers who don't watch all three shows -- a bit disappointing, since I was hoping each would have a different teaser ending. The article also reveals a bit more about the Monitor's motives.

I think I read somewhere that the episodes this year are somewhat tailored for their specific shows, rather than being one big uniform whole like last year. I'm starting to get the sense that the reality where Barry and Oliver are swapped is going to be mostly in part 1 and extend into part 2, with the Earth-90 Flash scenes largely being in part 1. The publicity photos seem to suggest a second reality with Barry and Ollie as gang members, Cisco as some sort of crime boss, and Merlyn, Diaz, and Joe Wilson as CCPD cops; since those are all Arrow villains, I'm guessing that reality is featured in part 2, the Arrow segment (which we know will also feature Batwoman). And presumably the fight against black-costumed Superman (with Earth-38 Superman also participating, judging from the behind-the-scenes photos) will be the climax in part 3, the Supergirl segment.

Then again, my story-structure predictions last year based on the advance photos for Crisis on Earth-X proved laughably wrong, so we'll see if I do any better this year.
 
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Speaking of worldbuilding consistency, they've obviously swept last year's problematical "There are only 53 Earths" assertion under the rug, since clearly there are at least 91 (since Earth-X doesn't have a number). That was a pretty random retcon to begin with, so I'm not surprised they ditched it.

Not necessarily; as I pointed out earlier, the 53 Earths don't have to be numbered sequentially.
 
Not necessarily; as I pointed out earlier, the 53 Earths don't have to be numbered sequentially.

But wouldn't that be kinda weird? Why would there be an Earth 1, Earth 5, Earth 38, Earth 90 etc...? Numbering the earths sequentially would make more sense.
 
I wonder if they’ll have the actors do each others opening narration for the Arrow and Flash episodes.
 
I wonder if they’ll have the actors do each others opening narration for the Arrow and Flash episodes.

That would be cute, but since we're starting off with the Flash episode and the opening narration comes before any of the story proper, I doubt it would really work.
 
But wouldn't that be kinda weird? Why would there be an Earth 1, Earth 5, Earth 38, Earth 90 etc...? Numbering the earths sequentially would make more sense.

The inhabitants of the various Earths wouldn't know what the number designations for their Earths and the others are, and we don't know who numbered them in the first place, so you're making assumptions and trying to apply logic to a scenario that doesn't really need to have logic applied to it.
 
But then what's to prevent different Earths from accidentally using the same number more than once?

The numbers used in the Arrowverse tend to be from Earth-1's perspective. As Harry said back in season 2, his people on Earth-2 considered their planet to be Earth-1. But presumably if the show puts up a caption for the audience's benefit, as they did here, it's presented in the scheme we're familiar with, which would be the Earth-1 scheme.
 
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