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Disney is pulling back from Marvel slightly (It now has "franchise fatigue". The MCU feature films have been underperforming as of late.)
 
Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts underperformed, but Deadpool and Wolverine made over a billion dollars and Fantastic Four made over half a billion dollars. I know there are some internet wags out there that would like to say half a billion dollars is underperforming, but that's nonsense.
 
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Turtletrekker said:
Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts underperformed, but Deadpool and Wolverine made over a billion dollars and Fantastic Four made over half a billion dollars. I know there are some internet wags out there that would like to say half a billion dollars is underperforming, but that's nonsense.
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FF's budget was $200 million. It did $521 million at the box office.

It barely broke even. It underperformed.

They cancelled three MCU films that were due to be released in 2026-2027 earlier this year.

Deadpool and Wolverine (2024) was the last MCU film to gross over $1 billion.
 
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Jayson Poorknees said:
I think the most likely scenario is Academy is cancelled after season 2 and then they do that Federation President Archer series. Then we will get one more final Kelvinverse movie. By then Matalas will be all the rage over his super successful Vision series and they will beg him to come back and do the Legacy series he wanted to do.
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Legacy will never be made.

Kirk Year One will never be made.

President Archer will never be made.

A Kelvin ST4 film has an outside chance of getting made.

But any 'new' Trek announced by Skydance will not be any of the previously pitched stuff above.

(And if I'm wrong, oh well ;))
 
No Grave Dug said:
Legacy will never be made.

Kirk Year One will never be made.

President Archer will never be made.

A Kelvin ST4 film has an outside chance of getting made.

But any 'new' Trek announced by Skydance will not be any of the previously pitched stuff above.

(And if I'm wrong, oh well ;))
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The best show CBS/Paramount produced was Prodigy, because it initially only had a fleeting connection to past Trek with the Janeway hologram, which was utilized efficiently for the story they were telling, which took things in an entirely new and interesting direction rather than retreading old tropes and characters. Unfortunately they chose to market it as a young kids’ show, which it most certainly was not, and that caused its downfall (as well as CBS’s general incompetence and bad decision-making.)

If Skydance wants lots more viewers than just the aging TOS/TNG demographic, then they need to come up with an idea that will cater to a mass audience. I personally don’t know what that will entail, because after 60 years of Star Trek, it’s admittedly hard to come up with something original that Joe Sixpack who’s never seen a Star Trek show in his life will want to watch.
 
No Grave Dug said:
Legacy will never be made.

Kirk Year One will never be made.

President Archer will never be made.

A Kelvin ST4 film has an outside chance of getting made.

But any 'new' Trek announced by Skydance will not be any of the previously pitched stuff above.

(And if I'm wrong, oh well ;))
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So what your saying is the Captain Sulu series is back on! :)
 
Laura Cynthia Chambers said:
cosmicbook.news

Paramount Wiping Out Kurtzman Star Trek With Simon Kinberg Reboot Claims Rumor | Cosmic Book News

Rumor claims Simon Kinberg is leading a new Star Trek trilogy that will reboot the franchise, ignore Kurtzman canon, and launch in 2027.
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Just saw this too. Oy. If much of this ends up being true, it'll be a pretty lousy 60th anniversary announcement as far as I'm concerned.

Some quotes from the above article from the reliably-dubious Cosmic Book News quoting the Tachyon Pulse Podcast:
Following the news that Skydance is ditching the JJ Abrams Star Trek universe, now a new rumor claims Star Trek is about to get a full cinematic reboot, and Paramount has tapped Simon Kinberg to rebuild the entire franchise from the ground up. The rumor again comes via the Tachyon Pulse Podcast on YouTube and says Kinberg’s film is being developed as the start of a brand-new trilogy that will replace everything from the Alex Kurtzman era. [...] Skydance will be canceling the Alex Kurtzman Star Trek once the contract ends. [...] The movie is said to take place after Enterprise but before the original series, during a period of Federation history that has barely been explored on-screen. The YouTuber calls it “Star Trek Origins,” explaining that it will follow the early expansion of the Federation and build toward the creation and launch of the Enterprise. [...]
The biggest claim is that Paramount wants nothing to do with Kurtzman canon once the deal with Secret Hideout expires. Tachyon Pulse says Paramount will ignore the Romulan supernova from Picard, ignore the Borg twist in Season 3, and avoid acknowledging characters and storylines created during the Kurtzman years. He claims this is partly because Secret Hideout owns its original contributions, and Paramount doesn’t want to negotiate for them. Instead, any future series would follow classic canon from the Berman era forward, while quietly pretending the last decade of shows never happened.
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Acknowledging that Simon Kinberg's involvement with future movies was previously confirmed by Variety, and a Star Trek origin movie is genuinely in development (or at least was recently)... Man, if this is the best fantasy someone can come up with for the future or Star Trek (whether it's a fan making it up or genuinely someone on the inside), I just don't know what to say to that.

I guess have fun with the yet-another-TOS-prequel trilogy from the screenwriter of X-Men: The Last Stand, Fant4stic, and Dark Phoenix. I'll personally be dreading it if it becomes the official plan.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Simon Kinberg also supposedly working on a Star Wars trilogy?
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Sorry for the two replies in a row, but somehow didn't process this part even as I was quoting it.

The more-reliable Variety confirmed Kinberg's involvement in both franchises last year:
Lucasfilm is developing a new “Star Wars” trilogy with Kinberg set to write and produce the three films with studio chief Kathleen Kennedy. This will begin a new series with new characters after “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker,” starring Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac, concluded the original nine-chapter “Skywalker Saga” in 2019. [...] Sources stress that Kinberg’s trilogy remains in early development, and it’s unclear when it’ll go into production. The filmmaker is serving as a producer on Paramount and Edgar Wright’s “The Running Man” remake, which recently went into production with Glen Powell and Josh Brolin. He’s also attached as a producer on Paramount’s next “Star Trek” movie from director Toby Haynes.
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New ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy in the Works From ‘X-Men’ Alum Simon Kinberg

Lucasfilm is finally returning to a galaxy far, far away with development on a new "Star Wars" trilogy from "X-Men" alum Simon Kinberg.
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It's at this point that anyone reading this article should have immediately closed their tab and laughed hysterically for at least 30 seconds.
 
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