News? Stories from Dubious Sources

[Steve Roby]

I think it's important to not learn the wrong lessons from 'Beyond's performance at the box office. It under performed, I believe, because of the reception to 'Into Darkness'. Had THAT been a better movie, 'Beyond' would have performed just fine.

Yeah, ST 2009 generated a lot of new interest in Star Trek. Then Into Darkness came out with something that would have confused the new fans and annoyed the older fans, in addition to goofy stuff like hiding the Enterprise underwater.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, ST 2009 generated a lot of new interest in Star Trek. Then Into Darkness came out with something that would have confused the new fans and annoyed the older fans, in addition to goofy stuff like hiding the Enterprise underwater.

And a too long mg gap between films.

Honestly, 09 needed a lot more running after it's success to keep that sliver of attention and interest. Into Darkness wasn't it.

 

[FredH]

The nuTrek movies underperformed because Paramount was piss-poor in promoting them. So they have nobody to blame for that except themselves. Maybe Skydance will learn that lesson.

I thought that the 2009 film did well, but people disliked Into Darkness, and didn’t bother with Beyond for that reason?

Edit: Ninja’d…

 

[FredH]

Yeah, ST 2009 generated a lot of new interest in Star Trek. Then Into Darkness came out with something that would have confused the new fans and annoyed the older fans, in addition to goofy stuff like hiding the Enterprise underwater.

I had no problem with the underwater bit, but retreading Khan (and referencing TWOK) badly severely undermined Into Darkness — especially after so much noise had been made about “No, he’s not Khan, honest!” — moved the film (and by extension for some, the film series) into eyeroll territory.

 

[fireproof78]

I had no problem with the underwater bit, but retreading Khan (and referencing TWOK) badly severely undermined Into Darkness — especially after so much noise had been made about “No, he’s not Khan, honest!” — moved the film (and by extension for some, the film series) into eyeroll territory.

Sadly. The film is strong on story and characters, reflecting great themes from Kirk and Spock and some social commentary.

Khan was a poor choice, treated like a Moriarty to the franchise when neither is the greatest foe.

The space jump was equally annoying. I eye roll more at that sequence than anything Khan related.