The Klingons put it best:
Childrens' uniforms.
Childrens' uniforms.
New uniform
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The Yorktown uniforms clearly have the Starfleet delta shield on the left breast, so I'd say they're definitely part of Starfleet. Could just be a planet-bound outpost specific variant, much like how the DS9 jumpsuit started out as a station-specific variant to the duty uniform.
Yeah, if that makes it into the film he will become fan-famous.
Note the TOS movie-like red jacket!
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1) This thread is seventeen pages long, now. It's past due for a little derailment. A smart poster knows how to get it back on track in a single response.
2) I wasn't attacking you. That misconception is decades old, and grows on occasion, depending on who's doing the misconceiving. On this particular day, at this particular time, I had had enough.
And finally,
3) Considering the number of times both you and M'Sharak respond to my posts with "You posted, therefore you are wrong" or its equivalent, I'll take M'Sharak's agreeing with me on the last page over your "Anything to shut this guy up!" any day.
Now then, who likes those new uniforms?
Gebirg and martok. While FormerLurker's correction was perhaps a tad on the blunt side, it didn't deserve the over-the-top reactions and insults that came with it, nor was it a thread derailment. Please refrain from doing that again.
FormerLurker, your decision to get in a dig at M'Sharak when he's not even involved in this is odd, and your response to martok are also personal comments that don't belong in the thread.
Everyone get back to the topic instead of sniping at each other.
FormerLurker, your decision to get in a dig at M'Sharak when he's not even involved in this is odd, and your response to martok are also personal comments that don't belong in the thread.
Everyone get back to the topic instead of sniping at each other.
My most sincere apologies for my part.
Back on topic.
I am of mixed feelings about those uniforms, but I'm sure they'll come more into focus when the film is released.
Back on topic.
I am of mixed feelings about those uniforms, but I'm sure they'll come more into focus when the film is released.
watching the video Quinto shared where he's wearing his Spock duty uniform.. meeeh that's kind of ugly man. I'll get over it because the costumes aren't the most important thing for me anyway, of course, but they're awkward. LOL His tunic looks like it's smaller than it should be (he's tall and maybe it looks short on him, doesn't help that maybe the cut is too square and might contribute to make it seems it's short) and it's too stiff. Makes me think about the old tos tunics, especially one of those short sleeved ones Mccoy had. I don't like this turtleneck look either. But I'll deal...
the new jumpsuit we see in the Dubai pics: I don't detest it, actually I like it better than the jumpsuit from stid .. that one looked like an auto mechanic's uniform.
I still wonder about that other uniform we saw on Kirk and Chekov, might be a special suit but for what? and why Scotty isn't wearing it?
the new jumpsuit we see in the Dubai pics: I don't detest it, actually I like it better than the jumpsuit from stid .. that one looked like an auto mechanic's uniform.
I still wonder about that other uniform we saw on Kirk and Chekov, might be a special suit but for what? and why Scotty isn't wearing it?
The odd part about the jumpsuits, to me anyway, is the rank on it is a the collar (ala TNG+ style) rather than the sleeves. I will be curious the see the reasons why or if they even explain it.
The new tunics are something that I am curious to see in action. I love the first two movies tunics, but I can understand the change, possibly indicating a new stage in Starfleet's incarnation since Admiral Marcus' departure.
Regardless, I think, in action, they will function quite well, or at least as well as any other Starfleet uniform in the past.
The new tunics are something that I am curious to see in action. I love the first two movies tunics, but I can understand the change, possibly indicating a new stage in Starfleet's incarnation since Admiral Marcus' departure.
Regardless, I think, in action, they will function quite well, or at least as well as any other Starfleet uniform in the past.
Because rank on the collar can be observed without much deviation of eye-to-eye contact (particularly if you meet an officer whose rank you don't know, and you wonder if they outrank you). Staring down at someone's wrists seems socially awkward.
Trekcore posted video of Quinto getting a "curtain call" at the end of shooting. It's the first chance to see the uniform in full, and I think it looks good on him. The red shirts in the room look good, too. The shirts more tailored in the shoulders and collar, and the colors look deeper, but otherwise they could pass for the TOS uniforms. Note the little flare in the pants where the pant legs tuck into the boots in one of the backround red shirts near the end of the video. That's got to be a nod to the old pants style.
Link to video (just scroll down a bit):
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/10/star-trek-beyond-wraps-principal-production/
Link to video (just scroll down a bit):
http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/10/star-trek-beyond-wraps-principal-production/
I agree with this. There was something way too casual and "sporty" about the uniform tunics in the first two movies. It felt like they were running around in T-shirts.
I'm not arguing the practical nature of collar insignia, vs. sleeve insignia. That isn't my point at all.
As I said, I'm curious to know the reason why. With TWOK to TNG there was a transition that made sense, at least to my mind. The transition from ID to STB is more interesting to me, akin to the TMP to TWOK transition.
RE: the wrap video, the new tunic looks much closer to the TOS style in terms of fit and shape on the person. The pants do not appear to have changed. Hopefully the boots have.
Also, I love the fact that the production team are leaving gifts for the different departments on locations. Quite classy of them, in my opinion.
The pants look like they've changed as well. They're no longer the motorcycle jeans with the ribbing on the knees. The boots that Pegg is wearing in the Vancouver shoot are different than the DKNY motorcycle boots they wore in '09 and ItD.
(I own both the DKNY boots and the same jeans used in the movies, which I use with my Anovos movie tunic and undershirt.)
Looking at the new tunic, I wonder if Costume Designer Sanja Milkovic Hays took cues from her time spent with TNG-ENT Costume Designer Robert Blackman, whom she worked with on INS. Blackman's design aesthetic for heroic costuming was squared shoulders and high collars, which he's spoken about in past interviews.
in short they were more functional and thus believable as uniforms?
because I think that's what the previous costume designer wanted to do: he reinvested the tos uniforms to make them look yes more modern, 'pretty', and polished (see the starfleet logo used for the pattern of the fabric), but they were also practical and looked comfortable.
Nowadays costume designers are a bit over the old fashioned idea that everything from sci-fi must look over the top futuristic and too complex, they're more focused on imagining what would make sense.
Then maybe they should start designing uniforms with pockets.
Why? Most ladies clothing don't have pockets, at least at my work
Also, if we are going with "what makes sense" (rare in science fiction and fantasy) then the ENT uniforms work the best in that setting.
Why? Most ladies clothing don't have pockets, at least at my work
That's because most ladies carry purses around.
Why? Most ladies clothing don't have pockets, at least at my work
That's because most ladies carry purses around.
That doesn't stop people from complaining about the lack of pockets
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