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I always felt like Tennant's mopey mood in "The End of Time" was bad form on RTD's part. It felt like he was salting the Earth for his successors, making it that much harder for the hardcore Tennant fans to accept any other Doctors. And it seems like that worked! I still know some fans that never totally accepted Smith and are still moping about wanting Tennant back almost 6 years later. (Granted it did take me about 2 years to get over Amy & Rory's departure and finally get used to Clara.)

Oddly, despite that potential setup, Matt Smith sold it immediately on regeneration with his quirkiness. Followed (several months later) with fish fingers and custard, and capping off with "Hello. I'm the Doctor. Basically. Run."

With me, I loved Smith in "The Eleventh Hour." Those early scenes with young Amelia totally sold me on his version of the character. But it was a very tense several months for me between "The End of Time" & "The Eleventh Hour" because I didn't really care for Smith's post-regeneration performance in "The End of Time."
 
I imagine the 2nd Doctor wasn't too thrilled with regenerating either, although with Season 6B being a possibility he might have regenerated in a relatively less abrupt and traumatic way than what the show implied at the time.

SPOILER ALERT: Death by scarecrows.

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Wilf was terrific in the finale! When he broke down pleading with the Doctor not to die, I got misty-eyed.

The Borgified Corpse, I agree with everything you said regarding The End Of Time. Also, James Marsters is on my Celebrity Must-Meets List:)

Admittedly when I first saw The Eleventh Hour (last summer) I didn't love it. At that point the only things I knew about the show was that it was a British show and different actors portrayed the Doctor. That's it. So I made the mistake of watching it blind, and boy was I confused! When I gave it a second try I decided to read up on it a bit.
 
I also felt that they really missed an opportunity to do a more poignant, low-key regeneration for Tennant in "The End of Time." What if they didn't use any special effects? What if they just had Tennant curl down into a fetal position when he goes into the radiation chamber, cut to Wilf's reaction, and when the Doctor stands up, it's now Matt Smith? Certainly the trick would have worked visually since Tennant & Smith look vaguely similar from behind.

I guess I just really hated that victory lap with Tennant at the end. I spent the whole time yelling at the screen, "For god's sake, just regenerate already!" It felt especially unnecessarily indulgent considering we had just recently had a reunion episode with all the companions in "Journey's End."
 
I also felt that they really missed an opportunity to do a more poignant, low-key regeneration for Tennant in "The End of Time." What if they didn't use any special effects? What if they just had Tennant curl down into a fetal position when he goes into the radiation chamber, cut to Wilf's reaction, and when the Doctor stands up, it's now Matt Smith? Certainly the trick would have worked visually since Tennant & Smith look vaguely similar from behind.

I guess I just really hated that victory lap with Tennant at the end. I spent the whole time yelling at the screen, "For god's sake, just regenerate already!" It felt especially unnecessarily indulgent considering we had just recently had a reunion episode with all the companions in "Journey's End."

Honestly, I really liked that part. It kind of brought a sense of closure to his run. Its still my favorite regeneration "sequence" (I think that's a decent enough term). It also fit his incarnation well.
 
A few things.

Who was the woman at the book signing? Wouldn't going back and seeing a pre-Doctor Rose mess up her timeline or something?

Speaking of Matt, I know David is quite a thin man but it looked like Matt was drowning in his suit! Just an observation.
 
Tho book signin woman was the great-grand daughter (and same actress) of Joan Redfer in the family of blood two parter in season 3. His "companion" from his time as John Smith if you want.
The great-grand daughter was named Verity Newman, after Verity Lambert and Sidney Newman, the first producer and creator of Doctor Who.

The Doctor did not mean to reveal himself to Rose, she just noticed him because of his dying cramps at the wrong moment.
I think their interaction was fairly harmless to the time line. She probably didn't even remember him months later when she met the Doctor proper.
And when else was he gonna see her? He could not hop over to the other universe to see post-doctor Rose who was probably busy screwing metacrisis Doctor's brains out anyway.
 
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I thought that's who she was but I wasn't 100% sure.

If that could have happened, I'm guessing it would have been super awkward if the real Doctor caught them in the act:lol:
 
Tennant was pissed about 3 years? Hugh Grant got 30 seconds.

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The woman at the book signing, might have been his "other" granddaughter.

It's really a question of how fresh Nurse Redfern might have gotten with John Smith.

Sure it was 1913, but she was a well read nurse, and a widow. Virgins might be able to put it off till they're married, but widows, after a respectable period of morning, are hardly going to wait to have sex again until they are remarried, IF they like sex.
 
Well that was. Woah.

Written by Steven Moffat, if you can believe it. About six years before Doctor Who restarted in 2005.

I see a little of this bleed though in "Lets Kill Hitler" with the exchange between River and the Doctor being like the banter between the Master and Doctor here. Also this is kind of why I want to see what Missy can really do, as Moffat's previous Master (the camp one) was amusing in his own right.
 
"The first guy"?

Holy shit.

Haven't you seen Blackadder?

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Cough. Rowan was also: Mr... Cough, cough, Bean.
 
I didn't like how he kept referring to regeneration as death. It isn't. It's a rebirth. Nine and Eleven welcomed the change, what was Ten's issue?
What was Ten's issue? Well, a few things. As DWF said, he really hadn't had that body/personality for too long and was pretty happy with it. Whether he realized he'd blown a regeneration in 'Journey's End' or not, he knew he was getting pretty close to the end of his twelve lives.

Another thing, I think, was that most of the other regens (and the circumstances causing them) came from out of nowhere. He couldn't avoid them, didn't have much of a chance to come to grips with it, barely had time to say goodbye (and sometimes not even that). But Ten... Ten had been given advance warning by the Ood. Like being told you've got terminal cancer, we don't know exactly how long you've got left (but it won't be long), and you won't feel a thing until the very end. That kind of knowledge can really mess with your mind.


Good points from NightOwl, but also think of Eleven's assertion that Ten had 'vanity issues'. Ten simply didn't want to go because he liked that version of himself, he was happy being him, he didn't want to become somebody else.

There is a theory out there about why Ten was so full of himself though. Obviously Nine was not the same way - a damaged man who hated himself over what he had done in the war. But then Rose came along. She 'regenerated' him in a way - she obviously cared for him and didn't think badly of him. So when Nine became Ten, he subconsciously became an even more lovable version of that guy - better looking, dashing, friendlier. And it worked - Rose flat-out fell in love with him.

Now if Rose could love him, even after everything he'd done, why couldn't he love himself? She gave him his self-confidence back. Unfortunately at some point along the way, he began to buy his own hype. Confidence became arrogance. Even after he and Rose had been forcibly separated, he knew that this version of him - Ten - was the version that she loved. If he changed and became somebody else, that version wouldn't exist anymore and neither would Rose's love for him. That's why he didn't want to change - it would be losing Rose once and for all.


Personally I never could get into Smith's Doctor and really The Day Of The Doctor showed how similar his and Tennant's Doctor are.

In some ways they are, but they are different as well. Ten had a heroic, swashbuckling style, whereas Eleven could be a huge dork. One my favourite moments of Eleven is from "A Town Called Mercy", and it's such a tiny thing. It's when the Doctor has found Kahler-Jex's escape pod in the desert. Trying to get it to open, he starts bongo-ing on the top, then hits too hard and shakes his hand, "Ow!" That's just so adorably daft and I can't see Ten doing it at all.


The Doctor did not mean to reveal himself to Rose, she just noticed him because of his dying cramps at the wrong moment. I think their interaction was fairly harmless to the time line. She probably didn't even remember him months later when she met the Doctor proper.
Plus of course, when she did meet the Doctor again, it was a very different looking Nine. Her first look at Ten was just some random guy in the shadows, drunk on New Year's Eve.

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A few things.

Who was the woman at the book signing? Wouldn't going back and seeing a pre-Doctor Rose mess up her timeline or something?

Speaking of Matt, I know David is quite a thin man but it looked like Matt was drowning in his suit! Just an observation.

I don't think Matt was wearing David's suit since they were both onset at the same time for the regeneration.
 
I always felt like Tennant's mopey mood in "The End of Time" was bad form on RTD's part. It felt like he was salting the Earth for his successors, making it that much harder for the hardcore Tennant fans to accept any other Doctors. And it seems like that worked! I still know some fans that never totally accepted Smith and are still moping about wanting Tennant back almost 6 years later. (Granted it did take me about 2 years to get over Amy & Rory's departure and finally get used to Clara.)

But haven't regenerations nearly always caused this sort of thing esp. when it's a "more" popular Doctor being replaced. The same goes for the companions when they are repalced with new ones. It's part and parcel of the show and if you don't like this version of the Doctor stick around you might prefer the next version.
 
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