Are any of the brewery-haters actually gonna boycott the next films unless they stop using it?
Or will the whinging continue until the end of time?
Or will the whinging continue until the end of time?
New sets onboard ship. Scrap the brewery!
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I-Am-Zim
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Probably not. I'm just not going to waste ten bucks seeing it in the movie theater. I'll wait till I can rent it from Blockbuster for $4.
Yep.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
so you are a NuTrek hater and when the sequel comes out you are going to rent it that doesn't make sense if you don't like it then why go on and on.
startrekrcks
Fleet Captain
oh my goodness you are actually going to still watch it are you stupid?
I-Am-Zim
Captain
I'm not 100% certain that the choice of the hangar's exterior appearance wasn't left entirely up to the CGI guys at ILM, and perhaps they did use Moffett's Hangar One as a model. It would have been the closest such hangar to where they're located, just as the hangars at Tustin are probably the closest to the Paramount studios.
Funny thing about the two hangars seen in the "outbound shuttles" scene: they sit in just about the same spot occupied today by Lucasfilm's San Francisco campus.
I got a better one: Is anyone going to go on a hunger strike until they promise to stop using the brewery?
I just looked up the 007 soundstage at Pinewood Studios. The soundstage has it's own website: www.007stage.com . It's nowhere hear as big as any of these airship hangars. It's only under 400 feet long by 40 feet high. Didn't know that it burned down again in 2006.
Hangar One at Moffett is probably the best looking example of an airship hangar in the US. I pulled up a screencap of that scene and the hangars in question are black and grey like Hangar One. The huge hangar at Goodyear-Akron is where the rigid airships for the Navy were built in the 30's. It's just black and isn't in as good shape or have any interesting details.
I saw somewhere that "Batman Begins" used the huge R-1 airship hangar in England. They built several connecting sets of city streets and highways inside.
Hated the brewery, thought it looked almost tacked on.
Loved the brewery, thought it looked big, industrial and epic.
I could always tell that the "metal" walls in old Star Treks were painted plywood. Between the "real" brewery, Kelvin power plant, white plastic Enterprise bridge and corridors the ship felt less "fake" to me. I've said it a million times, but I really got the "we're on a giant starship" vibe from this movie, instead of the usual "we're on soundstage at Paramount" one. A good thing, IMO.
I could always tell that the "metal" walls in old Star Treks were painted plywood. Between the "real" brewery, Kelvin power plant, white plastic Enterprise bridge and corridors the ship felt less "fake" to me. I've said it a million times, but I really got the "we're on a giant starship" vibe from this movie, instead of the usual "we're on soundstage at Paramount" one. A good thing, IMO.
I-Am-Zim
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Apparently, that feeling is purely subjective. When watching TOS, I never got the feeling that they were on a soundstage when they were on the Enterprise. It felt like they were on a starship zipping through space faster than the speed of light. To me, the sets looked fine. I don't get all the animosity toward the TOS sets. Nothing looked like plywood. Plywood has a distinct texture. The walls and various furnishings on TOS were smooth. Painted plywood would have a plywood texture that would be very noticeable. Especially in closeups. I love those sets. They don't look like cardboard to me. As for Budgineering, it looks like a brewery securely planted on terra firma in the 20th century. To me, it does not convey the sense that it is set aboard a faster than light starship in the 23rd century. I hated that crappy set with a passion. But again, that opinion is purely subjective based upon my personal aesthetic expectations, which STXI did not come close to meeting.
ship interiors and production values
With VOY and ENT with the ship interiors it is believable much more so but hey that is your opinion.
Due to lighting and production values I disagree.
With VOY and ENT with the ship interiors it is believable much more so but hey that is your opinion.
I-Am-Zim
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Re: ship interiors and production values
We'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, the TOS sets looked just fine. Granted, they wouldn't translate well to modern cinema "as is", but with some minor updating, those sets would have looked just as futuristic, if not moreso than that God-awful Budgineering or iBridge set. But again, aesthetic opinion is purely subjective. One man's garbage is another's treasure.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, the TOS sets looked just fine. Granted, they wouldn't translate well to modern cinema "as is", but with some minor updating, those sets would have looked just as futuristic, if not moreso than that God-awful Budgineering or iBridge set. But again, aesthetic opinion is purely subjective. One man's garbage is another's treasure.
I-Am-Zim
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Re: ship interiors and production values
Absolutely agree with this.
Alot of people seem to forget what the state in TV viewing was in 1968. 13 to 20 inch analog low-resolution color picture with one tiny mono speaker if you were lucky. Most of my Trek viewing in the early 70's was done on a 13 inch black and white portable TV. By today's standards, TV in the late 60's and early 70's looks absolutely horrible for every show, not just Star Trek. I thought back then, and still do, that Trek looked totally believable and cutting edge.
Everything's relative.
Absolutely agree with this.
Alot of people seem to forget what the state in TV viewing was in 1968. 13 to 20 inch analog low-resolution color picture with one tiny mono speaker if you were lucky. Most of my Trek viewing in the early 70's was done on a 13 inch black and white portable TV. By today's standards, TV in the late 60's and early 70's looks absolutely horrible for every show, not just Star Trek. I thought back then, and still do, that Trek looked totally believable and cutting edge.
Everything's relative.
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