New Picard Trailer

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. eschaton

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    I'm 90%+ sure that - absent Stewart's death or a rapid decline - the plan is to have Picard run for 2-3 seasons with Stewart as the lead. And Stewart appears to be very physically fit for a man about to turn 80, meaning there's no immediate reason to think he'll have to step back early.

    After that Stewart is likely done, but they can always do a spin-off show using the established characters.
     
  2. yenny

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    Picard is in his nineties and we don't know how many season they're planning. I'm thinking about 3-5 season.
     
  3. Paul Weaver

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    Had the German voice actor been run over and killed in 1990, would they
    1) replace said actor
    2) kill off character
     
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    I noticed the BoP doesn't seem to have an obvious bridge window. Maybe they've decided not to include them, at least for some ships? I think the 'hero' ship will have one personally.

    They said they have 3 seasons of stories plotted out. Only one season is confirmed officially, though they've hinted at a 2nd.
     
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    Starts out with more teal/orange triteness.

    Remember the good old days when people laughed at the Doctor Who story "Logopolis" for rapid cuts between the Doctor's technobabbling about the chameleon circuit and some human with a flat tire? Well, not to be outdone, a Trek show now does rabid intercutting between a ship going pew pew with (Data??)'s double-triumph of improved painting skills combined with new face. That can't be Data but Dr Soong's 12th project he had in a cupboard somewhere, though to be fair I'd ignore NEM's copycat canon that pointlessly and lamely killed off Data too. Even if Spiner wanted out because androids don't age... therefore this could still be Data and a form of dream, since...

    ... he wakes up and rubs his doggie and saying all is okay, as if the dog can even begin to comprehend... So I'm a little worried. His dog is also named "Number One". Hope he doesn't do that in the pee corner too often... is Picard suffering from that syndrome Dr Crusher diagnosed him with in that alt-timeline?

    All continues to improve and intrigue until I notice the Federation delta is now turned 90 degrees anticlockwise (better than 90 degrees clockwise, ask Roj Blake) but, dang, Stewart alone sold it for me and seems to be the same Picard I grew to love.

    Seems a bit odd that this show is bucking the trend by saying Picard needs to help this new character.

    Then the usual dyn-o-mite JJ trek fluff we've all sat through before, if I want stuff about repetition I'll dig up the song "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)" from 1985.

    Then we get the best bit, with Picard saying robustly "More than ever!" and I'm reeled back in, if not still skeptical...

    Why is Picard being mocked over this top secret rescue plan? (Hmmm, recalling the previous teaser and with a voice that sounds the same as the one saying how he failed it...)

    Then we get some more rabidly paced clips for people (who make my ADHD an utter nonissue by the slightest of comparison) of 23rd century Romulan warbird (to make up for all the 23rd century Federation ships seen in the TNG TV show, I'll fly with that), Seven is now The Terminator with impressive multi-gun wielding skills - and after a scene with some flaunted and equally bland heterosexual foreplay, is "Picard" now officially a sitcom? Based on that sappy "0 days since an accident assimilation" sign that's fresh out of "Batman 66"'s style, who knows...

    Will is now Santa Claus, also inexplicably retired... yup, definitely a sitcom.

    There are some more teal/orange effects... just make it in black and white if they're not going to make use of the full color palette...

    ...then Riker and Picard on golden pond being cranky old men... again, it's all become a sitcom...

    Having said that, it's likely 60/40 in favor of it being good. The teaser has done its job to tell enough of the setup and I'm more interested than anything else as a couple ideas crossed my mind (e.g. humanizing the past as 24th century TNG and VOY did show humanity as being more proto-Vulcan and can humanity really evolve like that? DS9 certainly got it right, which also opens an avenue to do a not unreasonable retcon and it'll help to keep "Picard" more in its own universe and without TNG being a pillar on which to judge it with. And yet the teaser talks of the past (hence folding into what I just mentioned above...))
     
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  6. Qonundrum

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    Probably just a means to lower the budget, to me it really is a small prop. Dang, first time in my life that I'm not quibbling about this sort of detail, which is as impressive as it's sad that I'm not...

    That weather balloon that was spotted over some midwestern state a couple months ago? Or a bionic duck... :devil:


    Teasing uberfans with a continuity from latter-era TNG or a dream sequence. Probably the latter, per my initial reaction post, or they are using "All Good Things" as being partly correct in its predictions. Either way, I am intrigued and the first couple of episodes will definitely fit the context in the ways a teaser cannot (so 60/40 can easily become 90/10).
     
  7. JD

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    They can't ignore Nemesis, and that Picard is dreaming about Data.
    An interesting thing I hadn't noticed that they pointed out in Io9's breakdown, is that Data appears to be painting Dahj.
    First of all, as I life long dog person, I can say from personal experience, that dogs can comprehend a lot more than you'd expect. Recent scientific studies have shown that on average dogs can understand about as much as a 2 year old person. There are times where I have made a off hand casual comment, and my Border Collie/American Staffordshire Terrier mix has reacted to it. I'm also not sure I see why him naming his dog No. 1 is a problem.
    The badge Picard puts on appears to be some kind visitor badge or something along those lines, all of the other badges we see are the same way they've always been.
    How exactly is this bucking the trend?

    I'm really not sure what you're referring to here.

    Then we get the best bit, with Picard saying robustly "More than ever!" and I'm reeled back in, if not still skeptical...



    This is just how trailers are put together now, so I don't really see something to hold against this one.
    This was actually one of my favorite parts of the trailer.
    I'm really not seeing the sitcom thing at all, it's pretty clear none of this stuff is being played for laughs.

    I'm not sure I understand what this is all referring to.
    It's a dream sequence.
     
  8. Ar-Pharazon

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    Haven't we seen a movie era phaser in TNG or DS9 in the hands of a civilian? I'm barely remembering a scene, but it's wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a civvie to have an old model, or at least a reproduction. We have new models of the Colt M1911, son't we?
     
  9. Tuskin38

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    Ar-Pharazon pointed this out in another thread
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    Yes. "Final Mission" (Season 4) had Nick Tate's character, Dirgo, carrying a TSFS phaser.
     
  11. Ar-Pharazon

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    That's the one, thanks.
     
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    And yes the 1911 (and AR-15, for that matter), are two of the most commonly reproduced military-originating firearms in the US. The M-1 Garand and M-14 are other good examples of this. The Beretta M92S is another example but, IIRC, it was commercially available before the military started using them widely during the course, and aftermath, of Gulf War I.
     
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    But are there many weapons from an alternate timeline still around in the real life? You know, from the one where WWI never happened or the one where there is Berenstein Bears.
     
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    I know a lot of people are theorizing that could be Chakotay, but I like Io9's idea that it is Icheb better. If it is someone from Voyager, he would be a good choice since he's another former Borg, and freed Borg seem to be a big part of the story.
     
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    Far too young to be chuckles. Even Icheb is quite old at this point.

    Seven knew them for 4 years or less before returning to AQ. It’s been 19 years since then - plenty of time to form lasting relationships.

    I can’t see any cameos just to kill the character off.
     
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    The point is that Meincke might have agreed to do it because it's a very brief commitment and he won't have to return to it later.
    He was voiced by Rolf Schult as well, so a third voice might not be that bad. I think in FC, Riker had the same voice as Tom Paris - but it was still fine.
    Meincke seemed to be healthy not too long ago:
     
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    It doesn't have to be the actual Icheb actor.
    They can just say it's the character and never show his face.
     
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    I have a hard time believing they'd ever get Robert Beltran back.

    Icheb is more likely. The character looks more like Icheb. And it would make Seven upset that he died. As well as explain why Hugh and Seven are in Picard but not him.
     
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    manu intiraymi said this on twitter about it:
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    it's possible he's obfuscating, and the dude seven looks like he's got similar hair to intiraymi, but i'm going with it's not him.

    part of that is hope. it's such a rich world and i'm dying to see so many characters from the 24th century again, but icheb just isn't on that list (i never loved the borg children) and i think i'd rather see old characters with new relationships. it's been a long time, seven can have connections that aren't with people she knew 20 years.
     
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  20. NCC-73515

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    icheb was a nice character. cute, curious, competent.