New Picard SDCC Trailer

[fireproof78]

Yeah, but 12.5 million of those are people hoping the trailer has a Geralt/Yennefer or Geralt/Triss or Geralt/Yennefer/Triss sex scene.

No-one's seriously expecting Patrick Stewart to get his freak on at LEAST until episode 2.

I wasn't expecting anyone to get their freak on at all O_o

 

[jaime]

maybe 24th century human society has moved past that kind of distinction so the color of data's skin is a nonissue? just a thought.

trekyards did a whole video basically just pointing out how puffy he is, which is ridiculous. maybe the show will address data's appearance, maybe it won't. i'm just happy to have him back in whatever form they decide to have him take.

It’s like sticking an orange lump on the end of a toy gun.

Data has to signpost he is artificial, because otherwise, people are unlikely to accept him (especially post lore) song has to hobble his work just a little, because Otherwise his existence looks like deceit. Let’s not forget Android duplicates were a thing in Kirks time.

He doesn’t do this on Juliana because he doesn’t have to, the goal is to deceive, including her own self.

 

[pst]

Data has to signpost he is artificial, because otherwise, people are unlikely to accept him (especially post lore) song has to hobble his work just a little, because Otherwise his existence looks like deceit. Let’s not forget Android duplicates were a thing in Kirks time.

of course. i've voiced my support for a fully human looking data... spiner with just yellow eyes or something and voila data got an upgrade. he looked badass with the half human look in first contact, it's clearly possible in-universe to make him a little more organic.

but there's also magic in that iconic data look.

 

[Verteron]

So anyway.

We've seen the 5843 days sign.

Trailer released on 20 July 2019*
5843 days before 20 July 2019 is 21 July 2003.

This is the date Matt Jeffries passed away.
Very touching Easter Egg if it's deliberate.

(credit: Reddit).

*May have actually been the 21st, but I'll give them an off by one error

 

[Tuskin38]

So anyway.

We've seen the 5843 days sign.

Trailer released on 20 July 2019*
5843 days before 20 July 2019 is 21 July 2003.

This is the date Matt Jeffries passed away.
Very touching Easter Egg if it's deliberate.

(credit: Reddit).

*May have actually been the 21st, but I'll give them an off by one error

That is probably just a coincidence.

 

[Danlav05]

Jonathan Frakes is in Toronto, he was filming with Sir Pat yesterday. Hoping it’s more than a quick cameo

 

[Tuskin38]

Patrick also said he was filming a flashback this week where

Spoiler

He's in uniform

 

[Spider]

Jonathan Frakes is in Toronto, he was filming with Sir Pat yesterday. Hoping it’s more than a quick cameo

Hell, bring 'em all back. I'd love it. Including crews from DS9 and VOY. PARTY!!!!!!

 

[Amasov]

Between The 37s and Initiations, Voyager takes on a supply of brand new Starfleet phasers and tricorders. Clearly a new continuity, since this would be impossible in the Delta Quadrant.

Each time Janeway's hairstyle changed, it was a new timeline.

 

[Amasov]

The girl has a cut on her forehead bleeding red blood. Thus it seems really unlikely she's Lal, and almost as unlikely she's some sort of undercover Borg.

Do Borg go undercover?

 

[Danlav05]

Patrick also said he was filming a flashback this week where

Spoiler

He's in uniform

Yaaaasss! I still wonder if that’s for the Short Trek; or both?

 

[Tuskin38]

Yaaaasss! I still wonder if that’s for the Short Trek; or both?

I'd imagine they'd film the Short Trek after they finish the season, but they might film it during the regular season if actor schedules are a problem.

 

[Oz Trekkie]

Brent Spiner is 70 years old. If Data -- whose relationship with Picard was so essential to who Picard is as a person -- is going to be in this show, he's going to look a bit different than he did when George H.W. Bush was president.

Get over it.



The last time we saw the Borg was in the ENT episode "Regeneration," which aired on 7 May 2003. The last time we saw the Borg in anything other than a one-off was the VOY series finale "Endgame, Part II," which aired on 23 May 2001. A child born the day "Regeneration" aired is old enough to have a driver's license; a child born the day "Endgame, Part II" is a legal adult with the right to vote. An entire generation has passed since the last time we saw the Borg.

And we don't know if this show will actually be about the Borg per se. These stories can be about the impact the Borg have had on other cultures, without being about the Borg themselves.



1) Sonequa Martin-Green's performance as a human caught between Earth and Vulcan is pitch-perfect.

2) I'm up for the changes to her personality after almost twenty years, but the Seven we see in the PIC trailer has mannerisms and speech patterns that are almost entirely different from the Seven of VOY. Her grammar is less prescriptivist, her mannerisms are more overtly emotional, her enunciation is more casual. It's a very different personality than we saw in VOY.

3) Seven on VOY and Burnahm on DIS definitely have similar personality patterns.



Edited to add: It makes perfect sense for Data to have an aging program, because he is endeavoring to be more Human. What you mean is that him having an aging program violates your pre-conceived notions about what an android should be like and that you are unable to accept creative decisions that are logical outcomes of the creative intent behind the character, if those decisions violate your pre-conceived notions. End edit.



Kirsten Beyer is a wonderful novelist whose VOY novels captured the spirit of the show while elevating it to new levels of depth and sophistication.

Michael Chabon is one of the most accomplished writers of his generation. He is the recipient of the 1999 O. Henry Award Third Prize for "Son of the Wolfman," the 2001 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction and a PEN/Faulkner Award finalist for The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay (a novel about the early years of the comic book industry, anti-Semitism in the U.S., and the rise of fascism in Europe), the recipient of the 2008 Nebula Award for Best Novel and 2008 Hugo Award for Best Novel, both for The Yiddish Policeman's Union, and is a 2012 inductee to the American Academy of Arts and Letters.

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and you should look up who these writers are and what their accomplishments are before you pretend you do.



Dude, it's 2019. Look around you. A superhero movie just became the highest-grossing film of all time unadjusted for inflation. Comic book conventions are major cultural events. Star Trek's various shows are some of the highest-rated shows on any streaming service.

We have long, long since passed the point where anyone gives a damn about making Star Trek "cool" as though the world is still divided up into nerds and jocks.



This.



Yes, this is definitely what Strauss Zelnick and Joseph Ianniello, Interim Chair of the Board and President and Acting CEO respectively of a publicly-owned corporation with revenues of over $14.514 billion and total assets of $21.86 billion, with almost 13,000 employees across five divisions and 13 subdivisions, definitely go to bed thinking about: How to punish customers whose money they need for not enjoying a movie made when George W. Bush was president and Ally McBeal was still on the air. You are not being the least bit ridiculous in thinking this.

Edited to add:




When Trek novelists sign on to write such a novel, it's work-for-hire -- they hand over ownership of any characters or concepts from the novel to CBS. Mack was a consultant to the DIS writers and is friends with DIS staff writer Kirsten Beyer, and he's been hired as a consultant on the new Lower Decks show. This is not plagiarism and he has not indicated any problem with their use of the Control concept.



My only thought is: Who the fuck is Robert Meyer Burnett and why should his inaccurate understanding the situation matter to anyone?

All the things I would say if I could be bothered responding in depth to this

 

[Prax]

Kirsten Beyer is a wonderful novelist whose VOY novels captured the spirit of the show while elevating it to new levels of depth and sophistication.

Michael Chabon is one of the most accomplished writers of his generation. He is the recipient of the 1999 O. Henry Award Third Prize for "Son of the Wolfman," the 2001 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction and a PEN/Faulkner Award finalist for The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay (a novel about the early years of the comic book industry, anti-Semitism in the U.S., and the rise of fascism in Europe), the recipient of the 2008 Nebula Award for Best Novel and 2008 Hugo Award for Best Novel, both for The Yiddish Policeman's Union, and is a 2012 inductee to the American Academy of Arts and Letters.

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and you should look up who these writers are and what their accomplishments are before you pretend you do.

oh, good grief. Get over yourself. You had my civil attention until that 3rd paragraph. I think you need to take a step back from all this, reflect on the nature of humor, and trade in some of your indignation and outrage(... over a yet to be aired tv show) for a healthy dose of cynicism.

 

[fireproof78]

and trade in some of your indignation and outrage(... over a yet to be aired tv show) for a healthy dose of cynicism.

Why would one want to be more cynical?

 

[Prax]

Why would one want to be more cynical?

If and when you find yourself too un-cynical.

Besides, this is a business after all, which is highly competitive, and very much focused/dependent on brand recognition.

 

[Turtletrekker]

oh, good grief. Get over yourself. You had my civil attention until that 3rd paragraph. I think you need to take a step back from all this, reflect on the nature of humor, and trade in some of your indignation and outrage(... over a yet to be aired tv show) for a healthy dose of cynicism.

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[Prax]

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Very good. You should feel proud. We should all curse and scream at each other, with plenty of mocking.

 

[Turtletrekker]

 

[fireproof78]

If and when you find yourself too un-cynical.

Besides, this is a business after all, which is highly competitive, and very much focused/dependent on brand recognition.

Doesn't answer my question, I'm afraid.

And, I already thought I was cynical enough. Certainly my response to the Picard trailer should illustrate that.