New Original Series USS Enterprise

[scifieric]

Wherever did that idea come from? (I haven't actually tried it on the TOS ship. It looks terrific!)

Uh, I had seen someone use shrink wrap on something in a video when I was actually searching for a way to use something as a guide. I honestly think I was researching windows-in-a-mesh at the time. It struck me that to get the shape I want, this might be a good solution, so I tried it with my tutorial model. The thing that was different was that I learned you DEFINITELY need a lot of edges or verts for shrink wrap to work well. So, that's what I did on this one. Yeah, I'm happy with how this turned out. Thanks Bill!

Oh my, I agree with Bill; that looks terrific! Sure wish LightWave had shrink-wrap; I keep seeing Blender artists using it in all sorts of interesting ways that I have to do manually (or not at all). Grumble.

Always looking to convert a serious talent, such as yourself, Professor! LOL!
In any case, you turn out spectacular work already!

I use Blender, too, but usually I use an Array modifier for large grid-type objects. It's good to know there are many ways to skin a cat.

Yeah, I used the array modifier (actually two of them) to turn out the grid of holes. Then I used shrink wrap to make it hew to shape.

 

[Tallguy]

@Professor Moriarty : Jooooiiiin usssssss.

 

[scifieric]

@Professor Moriarty : Jooooiiiin usssssss.

That made me LAUGH!

 

[scifieric]

Did a VERY small amount of work tonight. Just feeling plain tired.

These are simple test renders to see if I'm on the right track. I think (for the first time) I may have the warp engines near the right place.

One render is for the early production version of the ship. I hadn't realized that they only made the opening titles AFTER they had the lights in for the production model.

 

[Tallguy]

I hadn't realized that they only made the opening titles AFTER they had the lights in for the production model.

Depends on the season. I think there is ONE shot in the first season of the production Enterprise with the lit nacelles. It's the ship orbiting a planet toward the camera. For the second and third seasons that shot was removed and it's all pilot shots all the way, baby!

 

[scifieric]

Depends on the season. I think there is ONE shot in the first season of the production Enterprise with the lit nacelles. It's the ship orbiting a planet toward the camera. For the second and third seasons that shot was removed and it's all pilot shots all the way, baby!

I absolutely should have been explicit. When they released Where No Man Has Gone Before as an episode, the titles indeed included one shot of the production ship orbiting the planet. The first image in my prior post is an imitation of that shot, including production bridge, planetary sensor(s), location of the flashing running lights, and grids in the warp engines.

I had not researched anything beyond this episode, so I'm shocked that I didn't remember what happened in the remaining season titles! Nicely researched, Tallguy.

 

[Atolm]

Masterful work as per the norm bro.
I have a question though, and please excuse my ignorance here, but does this ship have the same bevel degree on the saucer edge as the later iteration? I ask, as I have always thought this ship was more angular or perhaps sharper on her saucers edge when compared to the later iteration of the vessel.

 

[scifieric]

Masterful work as per the norm bro.
I have a question though, and please excuse my ignorance here, but does this ship have the same bevel degree on the saucer edge as the later iteration? I ask, as I have always thought this ship was more angular or perhaps sharper on her saucers edge when compared to the later iteration of the vessel.

Wow, thank you!

Um, I believe on the 11 foot model, it was consistent through the series. But, the 11 foot model was not the only one we saw! There was a 3 foot model, and an even smaller balsa wood and cardboard tube model, plus of course, the tiny two they used in Catspaw. So, maybe there is a difference between the 3 foot and the 11 foot?

3 foot model

11 foot model

 

[Professor Moriarty]

There is a PRONOUNCED difference between the 33” and 11’ miniatures in the shape of the lower saucer. The 33” has a flatter “bottom” and a harder-edged “scoop” at the outer edge. The 11-footer is much more curvaceous at the bottom (the Bezier curve ends just before the ring surrounding the lower sensor dome) and it’s smoother at the outer edge where the hull scoops upwards.

Eric, except for the detailing, those last four images look like screencaps from the second pilot. Not only the Enterprise herself, but the camera angles, too. You’re definitely on the right track!

 

[scifieric]

Eric, except for the detailing, those last four images look like screencaps from the second pilot. Not only the Enterprise herself, but the camera angles, too. You’re definitely on the right track!

Wow! Thank you, Professor!

 

[aridas sofia]

Anyone seeking to understand the substantial differences between the 11’ and 33” models would be well advised to consult the extensive and incisive work by David Shaw.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/1701_33in_hi-res_plans.pdf

 

[scifieric]

Anyone seeking to understand the substantial differences between the 11’ and 33” models would be well advised to consult the extensive and incisive work by David Shaw.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/1701_33in_hi-res_plans.pdf

Yep. I tell people about David's work quite often! Thank you!

 

[yotsuya]

David Shaw has the best data out there on the 33 inch, 4 inch, and early AMT versions of the Enterprise. He is a close second on the 11 foot (hard to beat Gary Kerr who has had direct access to the model itself, but he hasn't published much of anything). David has a lot of info on the 33 inch that directly relates to the 11 foot (4 times the dimensions of the smaller one). Some of the shapes were different, but for the most part they were identical in proportions.

 

[Atolm]

Anyone seeking to understand the substantial differences between the 11’ and 33” models would be well advised to consult the extensive and incisive work by David Shaw.

http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek_stuff/1701_33in_hi-res_plans.pdf

Thanks bro!

 

[scifieric]

Thought I was going to start on the windows today. But changed the "triangles" and made the triangle bases. Changed the pilot warp domes.

 

[Tallguy]

Lovely. Wires?

 

[scifieric]

Lovely. Wires?

Wow! Thank you, Bill!

It's been so long that anyone ever asked for wireframes that I thought, "Don't be silly, Bill. It's in 3D, there are no wires!" Then I thought, 'Oh! He's asking for WIRE FRAME IMAGES!' I don't know that anyone has ever asked before. My pleasure.

Remember, I'm still building and have not optimized anything yet. Not until the windows go in.

 

[Tallguy]

That is a DENSE mesh. It looks terrific!

 

[scifieric]

That is a DENSE mesh. It looks terrific!

Yep. I start dense, (and many people have commented that I too am dense!) and then if the spirit moves me, I clean it up.

 

[Tallguy]

Fascinating...