Indeed!
BTW, I think that the women' s Cage uniforms made much more sense than the mini-skirt outfit.
And I think that light and heavy outfits both have their merits. Maybe the ships/stations change the ambient temperature a little to mimic seasons.
New interview with Laurel Goodwin (Yeoman Colt from "The Cage")
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And I think that light and heavy outfits both have their merits. Maybe the ships/stations change the ambient temperature a little to mimic seasons.
No idea on the sideburns, I'm afraid. I believe I read an article about them in the Star Trek Magazine 15-20 years ago. Ot may have more detail.
It's nice to hear from Goodwin, although some of her recollections about Hunter's decision to turn down the second pilot are wrong.
It's nice to hear from Goodwin, although some of her recollections about Hunter's decision to turn down the second pilot are wrong.
Did a quick Google search on them and someone in this forum cites the Whitfield "Making of" book: http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/95140/who-invented-star-trek-sideburns-and-why
And this hairstylist claims his father, who apparently worked at Desliu or for Lucille Ball, created the look:
Mystery deepens ...
Had they picked up the first pilot -- Hunter (or his wife) would have had zero say so about the show beyond what the first contract stated. So her demands would have been moot.
It was in negotiation for the second pilot that things got difficult. "Movie star" or not -- had the network picked up the first pilot --he was going to be a TV actor.
It was in negotiation for the second pilot that things got difficult. "Movie star" or not -- had the network picked up the first pilot --he was going to be a TV actor.
Your evidence is all good, but I don't see it contradicting what Laurel said. She thought up the sideburns for Spock, and much later when she tuned in to see a Shatner episode, he had them too. Because after the pilots were done, it was decided to give all the men pointed sideburns. Her story is in keeping with what we see.
Also, I think Hunter's sideburns are ambiguous at best.
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Well, even if her memory is perfect she is just reporting a hearsay ("Now, I got this story from a very dear friend of mine back East, who was a network honcho").
Edit: The 'H' is pronouned.
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Well, there's this bit, which is similar (though not exactly the same) to the version Goodwin told to the author of Drive-In Dream Girls (which I previously fact-checked on my blog):
NBC ordered a second pilot on March 26, 1965. This wasn't announced publicly until later, but multiple letters sent by Roddenberry to various people involved with the production after the pickup confirm this date. By April 5, 1965, Hunter had dropped out (Roddenberry sent Hunter a letter on this date in which he says "I am told you have decided not to go ahead with STAR TREK.").
Goodwin remembers picking Star Trek over "these two comedies." In fact, her agent negotiated a deal where she did a screen test for the sitcom Tammy in April of 1965 (the test happened sometime between April 9-13, after Hunter had dropped out of Star Trek). That screen test included an option with Universal for that series. Under the terms of that deal, Universal had "first position" on Goodwin, while Desilu had "second position." If Universal had picked up its option on Goodwin, Star Trek would have been history for the actress (Universal went with someone else; Tammy lasted one season in 1965-66).
The "two other comedies" couldn't have come before April of 1965, because Goodwin was still under option with Desilu for Star Trek as a weekly series.
When it comes to STAR TREK history, healthy skepticism is good. There's a lot of myth around the production, which isn't helped by the Marc Cushman books and other similar tomes.
I'm not saying that she didn't. I'm just questioning whether it's actually what happened. Memory is a fuzzy thing, and we get numerous retelling of events and embellishments — e.g. Nichelle Nichols' MLK story.
Also, I'm a former journalist, so I always look for at least two sources for a claim, particularly any formal documentation.
When it comes to solid STAR TREK research, I always turn to @Harvey. Now there's a researcher!
Healthy skepticism, especially when it comes to accounts largely based on half-century old memories, is always best. I still can't speak to the origin of the pointed sideburns, though. Clearly, multiple people have laid claim to this particular innovation. Who actually came up with the idea? Who knows.
Indeed!
BTW, I think that the women' s Cage uniforms made much more sense than the mini-skirt outfit.
More sense maybe but not as exciting to look at!
JB
"pronounced"
I'm guessing that Roddenberry always planned on mini-skirts, but didn't want to push it into the pilot.
According to Grace Lee Whitney in Allan Asherman's The Star Trek Interview Book, the miniskirt uniforms were her idea.
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