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[number6]

Not really cool enough to justify the unreality of it, to me anyway.

<shrug> Looks more real to me than the old way.

Same here. Even with lens flares!!

 

[Guartho]

We'll have the posted shot and then Spock will turn around and say "Uhura! Turn on the damn glare filter! I swear, if she wasn't so hot I'd have fired her months ago." Spock turns back around and then Uhura flips him the bird and calls him an asshole under her breath.

Gritty, not-your-Daddy's Trek, AND non-reflective. I am a master filmmaker.

 

[number6]

We'll have the posted shot and then Spock will turn around and say "Uhura! Turn on the damn glare filter! I swear, if she wasn't so hot I'd have fired her months ago." Spock turns back around and then Uhura flips him the bird and calls him an asshole under her breath.

Gritty, not-your-Daddy's Trek, AND non-reflective. I am a master filmmaker.

but are you a shareholder??

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We'll have the posted shot and then Spock will turn around and say "Uhura! Turn on the damn glare filter! I swear, if she wasn't so hot I'd have fired her months ago." Spock turns back around and then Uhura flips him the bird and calls him an asshole under her breath.

Gritty, not-your-Daddy's Trek, AND non-reflective. I am a master filmmaker.

but are you a shareholder??

A shareholder in what? Paramount?

 

[Ghrakh]

The lack of reflections on viewscreens before were never a problem. I guess then it was more about the content than the viewscreen itself.

Nope. Like everything else, it was about what they could afford and what they thought the audience would buy.

This looks like a case of a solution in search of a problem, meaning, a desire to apply some kind of special effect onto a scene when none really is needed.

Nope, it's a desire to make the thing appear to interact with the environment in some way that might get people who aren't already predisposed to believe in it to accept it unconsciously as something other than a post-production effect.

One of the best things about this movie so far - one of the things that clearly comes from bringing in all new people - is that they're looking at various aspects of the thing without having their solutions dictated primarily by the way it's been done before. What ought this magic viewscreen look like, as opposed to "what did it look like the last fifty times they designed one?"

Nothing magical about a viewscreen. Screens aren't exclusive to ST either. You're just making assumptions about what audiences expect or would accept based solely on what this film is providing.

 

[number6]

We'll have the posted shot and then Spock will turn around and say "Uhura! Turn on the damn glare filter! I swear, if she wasn't so hot I'd have fired her months ago." Spock turns back around and then Uhura flips him the bird and calls him an asshole under her breath.

Gritty, not-your-Daddy's Trek, AND non-reflective. I am a master filmmaker.

but are you a shareholder??

A shareholder in what? Paramount?

Yes.. Because, after all, they are in the know!!

 

[ST-One]

The lack of reflections on viewscreens before were never a problem.

True.
But those were also never windows.

 

[ancient]

Not really cool enough to justify the unreality of it, to me anyway.

<shrug> Looks more real to me than the old way.

Looks real enough to me, but no more so than before.


...Damn it, I don't think we're being combative enough on this issue, let's pick up the pace. This issue must be driven into the ground as much as possible.

 

[number6]

Give the "regulars" another hour or two to shovel their usual.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

...Damn it, I don't think we're being combative enough on this issue, let's pick up the pace. This issue must be driven into the ground as much as possible.

Uh...okay.

I wish to state for the record, sir, that you don't know balls about viewscreens!

Your turn.

 

[ancient]

I think that view screens should not have tiny numbers all over the sides. Those tiny numbers will certainly cause problems if the Helm person misreads them. Those tiny numbers really get my goat.

Doesn't Abrams know anything about the science of tiny numbers? They should only appear on eye charts. Damn ignorant filmmakers.

Crap, it's really hard to whine this much.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Crap, it's really hard to whine this much.

God, you have no idea!

 

[M'Sharak]

Perhaps you'd care to reread my post, and pay attention.

Except for UNBREAKABLE, I'm not a fan of his stuff (haven't even seen the last couple.) Maybe you need to start liking his stuff in order to keep disagreeing with me.

Why? You seem to think this film is going to suck without having seen it.

Yeah, but he has hard evidence to support his opinion: lens flares, reflections in a glass window, a fast-paced cut trailer, a set-design he doesn't like...

This movie could very well suck and then these things would only be part of it's problem.
But to state this movie will suck just because of these things, without having seen the actual directorial approach and the actors' performence is... yeah, what?... Stupid? Dishonest?

Both.. I am sure a condescending lecture about filming techniques is sure to follow. After all, none of us have any practical idea of how any of this this is done, except for 16mm guy and the shareholder.

To the rest of us it's all *Hollywood Magic* and fairy dust.
Never forget that!

16mm guy - I like that

trevanian, as a reporter and fan-filmer, is a bit like a eunuch; he knows how a major motion picture is made.

He knows how a major motion picture is made the way some "fans" know how to produce Star Trek. I think it's presumptuous to assume that because someone is trying something different than what had come before is somehow doing it the "wrong" way.

Exactly.

Enough. trevanian may have been a bit condescending at times, but here he at least seemed to be trying to discuss the topic at hand, which is more than you two were doing in the later pages, crapping up the thread with personal stuff having little to do with the subject of discussion. And trolling, too -- that's one warning for each of you.

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