New Enterprise May Have Nacelles That...

[STARTREK11]

I have a friend who works for ILM and he says he has seen designs for the new Enterprise which he says will be similar to the TOS version but will be a bit more clunky but it will have an important difference in that the nacelles which are on the supporting struts will

Spoiler: Spoiler about Star Trek ship

be rotatable at the point where thay are attached to the supporting strut.

be rotatable at the point where thay are attached to the supporting strut.

This means we will have vectoring impulse/warp nacelles.
I have done a study of this using a cone as a secondary hull and 4 pens acting as strut and nacelle and the advantage seems to be in higher maneuverability as by turning the nozzles at intermediate angles you can make them point partially down/up and also you can make one nacelle point forwards and be able to do very sharp turns and also very quick braking by pointing both forwards.

You can do simulation yourself or someone can do a photoshop so you can get a better idea.
The advantages seem to give a huge increase in maneuverability as the nacelles when they rotate on the struts move in 2 planes at the same time horizontal and vertical as the struts are in a v shaped angle.

You may remember Voyager having movable nacelles,but as this is a less advanced ship the nacelles can move a lot more than just up/down.[/spoiler]



Sorry cant get more than a line in the spoiler text field.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Oh, geez... I sure hope that your friend is full of it.

 

[The Wormhole]

Well this sounds like a betrayal of the past 41 years of Star Trek and as a result, I won't be able to see the movie, etc and so forth.

 

[ancient]

Well that sounds pretty pointless.

 

[Skippy 2k]

For what purpose? Why would the nacelles need to have vectoring exaust? The warp nacelles (as far as I understand this non-existant tech) mainly create the warp field which encompasses the ship so and bends the space in front/behind. As they don't actually work like rockets to propell it why would they need to rotate.

I guess the impulse engines it could make more sense (even though they seem quite capable of moving the ship fore and aft without venting forward) but are they included on the nacelles in this version!?

 

[Cary L. Brown]

There's another perspective here...

First off... IF your friend is actually an employee at ILM and just leaked confidential information re: the film, he'll probably cease being an ILM employee within the next several days. This film is covered by nondisclosure agreements and they're being pretty strict in enforcing them. Now, you could have posted something like "an unidentified source" or "hey, guys, what if" and that would be reasonably safe. But as of now, if they find out who you are and your relationship to this friend... he's on the street as of Monday.

So, I'm suspicious of it in the first place. That said, however...

There is good reason to believe that there MIGHT be other ships in this film besides Enterprise. In fact, it's something I've always believed (with fairly good reason) that the flick will show us multiple starships, and that Enterprise will not be the central focus of the film.

So... suppose that your soon-to-be-unemployed friend was telling you the truth. Is it possible that he was talking about, say, the USS Alexander instead of the USS Enterprise?

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING, of course...

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

I heard the whole front end is going to be able to be raised or lowered for when Kirk and Spock are cruising for chicks.

And the sound system is bangin'.

 

[ancient]

I hope the bridge rotates though.

 

[Bad Bishop]

STARTREK11 said:
I have a friend who works for ILM

My friend who works for ILM says that your friend who works for ILM is a liar. And my friend who works for ILM was a narc in high school, so your friend who works for ILM better watch out.

 

[Dale]

Ridiculous. You're making that up.

Someone needs lessons in both believeable rumor-mongering and proper use of spoiler code.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

ancient said:
I hope the bridge rotates though.

It does rotate.

And these giant, jacked-up razor blades come out the sides of the saucer section, and the whole thing spins like a giant buzzsaw. These were the only weapons they had before the photon torpedo and phaser were invented. The Enterprise basically flies right up next to a Romulan ship and cuts the fuckin' thing in half. Solid.

Also, since the multiple razor blades are basically giant pieces of metal that surround the circumference of the dish, the whole saucer section doubles as a giant tambourine if they run into any Space Hippies...

 

[gastrof]

My friend who doesn't work for ILM says that ILM is just trying to confuse us and that they aren't actually working on the movie at all, and are being spiteful and probably had an argument with their boyfriend/girlfriend and are just looking for attention like they always do and should just be ignored until they start acting their age.

 

[Therin of Andor]

STARTREK11 said:
Sorry cant get more than a line in the spoiler text field.

Why not?

Go back and edit it to your liking.

 

[AC84]

If they're changing the look and design of the Enterprise....why don't they just come out and say that this film, which is simply titled "Star Trek", is a remake. As oppose to pandering to the fans of TOS. I'd feel a lot better if they did. In fact, I'd embrace it with excitement. Honesty goes a long way.

 

[MattJC]

There is no way I'd embrace it, but if they just came out and said it was remake, I'd be willing to tone down the whining and accept it is happening and move on, unless someone wanrs to make a federal case out of it when I tell them I'm not interested in Abrams' remake. I hate being lied to.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Samuel T. Cogley said:
I heard the whole front end is going to be able to be raised or lowered for when Kirk and Spock are cruising for chicks.

Oddly enough, my front end does this under similar circumstances.

 

[Flake]

Absolutely ridiculous. Load of rubbish. Is it April 1st? etc...

 

[Jono]

STARTREK11 said:
You may remember Voyager having movable nacelles,but as this is a less advanced ship the nacelles can move a lot more than just up/down.

Wait, they are less advanced but can do a lot more...? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Christopher]

AC84 said:
If they're changing the look and design of the Enterprise....why don't they just come out and say that this film, which is simply titled "Star Trek", is a remake.

If it isn't set in the same time period as the series, then a different look to the Enterprise isn't necessarily a canon contradiction. It could just be that the ship underwent a refit or two.

Besides, you might as well have asked 28 years ago when TMP came out, "If they're changing the look of the Klingons, why don't they just come out and say it's an alternate universe?" The intention was that Klingons had always looked like that and we were supposed to suspend disbelief. Later, a way was found to reconcile the different types of Klingon. I don't see why this should be any different.

 

[Flake]

My friend in ILM says that the Enterprise can transform into a Helicopter by using its rotating nacelles for lift like a Chinook!

He also says the Enterprise is recruited into the Autobots by Optimus Prime at the end of the movie to set up a Transformers & Star Trek crossover - a guaranteed money maker for Paramount.