New Borg Origin Theory?

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  1. KamenRiderBlade

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    Anti-Trekker has a new Borg Origin Theory that has some interesting ideas behind it.

    What do you all think?
     
  2. Abbey Chrimble

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    I think I have very little interest in what a YouTube poster who uses anthropomorphic poop as an avatar has to say about anything.
     
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    True. I like poop pictures to be as depicted as actual waste material myself.
     
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    I'm more turned off by people who make us watch 19 minutes to make a point...
     
  5. Lord Garth

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    I'm not watching the video. I feel the same as everyone else. If he changed his avatar to something besides shit, then I might be more inclined. But anyway...

    There's an episode of VOY, I can't remember the name, that mentioned the Borg existed 900 years earlier in the Delta Quadrant and it was only made up of four races. Let me look it up... "Dragon's Teeth".

    That's the closest to the origin of the Borg we've had so far, unless Picard goes further with it. I'm willing to wait to see what they do. Or don't do.

    And nothing in Discovery has led to or will lead to the Borg. DSC is taking after DS9 in more ways than one.
     
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    I'll be absolutely stunned if they don't. I'll eat my hat.
     
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  7. Timo

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    The Vaadwaur there essentially provide the provincial view on the Borg.

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    I guess the thing here is, what would the Vaadwaur know? Humans up till the 24th century think the Borg have assimilated exactly zero systems. VOY portrays the Borg as secretive, but OTOH not really centered around planet Vaadwaur or anything. So the Vaadwaur view is not in direct contradiction of the Guinan statement that the Borg are "thousands of centuries" old. Although we of course also have to ask, what would Guinan know? (Her statement is not contradicted by Q, who otherwise loves to put a word in edgewise, FWIW.)

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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    This particular poster has a habit of posting videos and then asking us to “discuss.” I wonder whose videos they are...
     
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  10. Tenacity

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    First, what do you think?
     
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    I think Youtube "commentators" or whatever they're called are a dime a dozen, and if linking to an article or a video, then discussion is more easily facilitated if some kind of summary of the main points is included here.

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  12. KamenRiderBlade

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    I think Anti-Trekker makes a good plausible theory as to the organic origins of the Borg before they become "The Borg". Or as Lily Sloane likes to state "They sound Sweedish" =D. And that there are a fragmentary divide of the organic parasitic jumping space ravioli looking creatures and what would eventually become "The Borg".

    At some point down the line, the parasitic jumping space ravioli co-opted some species with advanced enough technology that they made the Borg Nanites and transferred some of their collective conciousness into "The Borg Collective". That eventually starts a split from their pure organic brethern to the hybrid Cyborg beings that "The Borg Collective" become.

    None of the existing Borg canon contradicts that either given how old they potentially are.
     
  13. King Bob!

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    The Destiny trilogy from Pocket Books gives its own interesting take on Borg origins.
     
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  14. KamenRiderBlade

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    They're Anti-Trekker's videos. One of many YouTubers that I follow.
     
  15. KamenRiderBlade

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    I remember reading the synopsis of the Caelir. It's a interesting take on their origins.
     
  16. KamenRiderBlade

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    But with information that Seven of Nine brought back to "The Federation/StarFleet". They now know how expansive Borg Space is within "The Delta Quadrant".

    You have "The Dominion" in the Gamma Quadrant, you have "The Borg" in the Delta quadrant.

    Boy if those two powers ever go to war, it'd be fascinating to see the outcome of it.
     
  17. Timo

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    I doubt Seven really would be able to properly convey the whole truth about Borg existence even if she spent the whole four years trying to explain it to the best of her ability. In the very last episode of the show, a central and crucial Borg feature (the transwarp hubs) still comes as a surprise to our heroes! And that one is crucial to the very issue of "expansiveness of Borg space"...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  18. KennyClaus

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    YOU follow.........WE do not. SO include a synopsis or your thoughts or SOMETHING. I am not giving some random jerkoff ad money and watching a 19 minute video for you.
     
  19. DonIago

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    Indeed. I'm pretty happy with that one myself. Open to other ideas, but they have stiff competition.
     
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  20. KamenRiderBlade

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    Wow, so hostile! [Content removed by moderator.]
     
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