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New Abrams interview about the next Trek movie...

Wouldn't want to see Q himself, but it would be fun to see the crew tortured and tested by some all-powerful being like in the old days.

Or even have some of the crew possessed by some alien entity. I know that got to be a bit of a cliche in the Berman years, but I think it would actually be fun to see in a new movie. :)
 
I want to see an EVIL bad guy(s)!!! What is best in Trek?
To crush the Federation's enemies, see them driven before you on the viewscreen, and to transmit the lamentations of their reproductive pair-ups!!!
 
If they really want to rip a page from TOS, they would cast Hanks as a Starfleet officer gone rogue. That happened what, like three or four times? (I always knew we were in for it when Kirk began with, "He's a highly respected officer, a legend in Starfleet...")

Trek had its share of mad scientists, too--I really like mad scientists. Make Hanks a mad scientist!

Hey... Hanks as a mad scientist who worked for Starfleet until they tried to shut down his experiments in... in warp fields... and... and... oh, I don't know, things go horribly wrong! :)

No no--in eugenics... :p

:lol:

Perfect - lots of opportunity for McCoy to shout about people playing God ;)

Just so long as there's no-one called Soong or Khan ...:scream:
 
Wouldn't want to see Q himself, but it would be fun to see the crew tortured and tested by some all-powerful being like in the old days.

Or even have some of the crew possessed by some alien entity. I know that got to be a bit of a cliche in the Berman years, but I think it would actually be fun to see in a new movie. :)

Q would be perfect..what a way to bring Shatner/Kirk back.
 
Wouldn't want to see Q himself, but it would be fun to see the crew tortured and tested by some all-powerful being like in the old days.

Or even have some of the crew possessed by some alien entity. I know that got to be a bit of a cliche in the Berman years, but I think it would actually be fun to see in a new movie. :)

Q would be perfect..what a way to bring Shatner/Kirk back.

Bringing Kirk back would be even more difficult to pull off than Spock, especially in a second movie.

I consider the baton passed; I'd rather not see Shatner's Kirk any more.

Except for maybe in a 2-hour premiere of a new television series... :)
 
Wouldn't want to see Q himself, but it would be fun to see the crew tortured and tested by some all-powerful being like in the old days.

Or even have some of the crew possessed by some alien entity. I know that got to be a bit of a cliche in the Berman years, but I think it would actually be fun to see in a new movie. :)

Q would be perfect..what a way to bring Shatner/Kirk back.

Bringing Kirk back would be even more difficult to pull off than Spock, especially in a second movie.

I consider the baton passed; I'd rather not see Shatner's Kirk any more.

Except for maybe in a 2-hour premiere of a new television series... :)

Thirded. Shatner as Q would end up looking like a crossover by the Big Giant Head from Third Rock.
 
I wasn't referring to Shatner as Q, but Q could bring him back. A TV movie? That is fine with me, as long as they bring him back and if they want to kill him off, do it more respectfully.
 
Why remake "Space Seed"/TWOK? If you're going to remake something, remake "The Doomsday Machine."

This would be good

I've thought about this way too much honestly, I keep coming back to this:

There is no treaty at this point between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. The Organians would be at this point thought to be a developmentally stunted race living peacefully on a planet adjacent to both Klingon and Federation space. What if the conflict was the spectre of galactic warfare, the 22nd century equivalent of WWI...and the events leading to a peace treaty solidifying the political structure of the this area of the galaxy. It could be huge in scope, and put James Kirk in the hotseat as the flashpoint for Galactic peace.

This could draw parallels with our own world situation, but in a way which would be again uniquely ST. Done right, it could still be an entertaining popcorn movie, with the shades of gray some people seem to desire.

As far as shades of gray not working in a "summer blockbuster" I would say that TDK has many shades of gray, with an interesting well organized story. Shades of gray don't mean no compelling story, or lack of conflict. This could be a smart, yet entertaining summer film.

I'm sure that some will see this as "too complex" to fly and too much detail the new fan won't want. I still think it could work.

MRE

This could be better.
 
As far as shades of gray not working in a "summer blockbuster" I would say that TDK has many shades of gray, with an interesting well organized story. Shades of gray don't mean no compelling story, or lack of conflict. This could be a smart, yet entertaining summer film.

I'm sure that some will see this as "too complex" to fly and too much detail the new fan won't want. I still think it could work.

Right. The Dark Knight establishes a minimum baseline of moral complexity that you can put into a blockbuster and still make a mint. But complexity need not mean only darkness and shades and grey. Optimistic, humanist values can be complex, too, if properly tested against their opposites in a dramatic story.

Pike says that the Federation is a "humanitarian and peace keeping armada". Let's put that to the test, maybe with a Klingon plot as suggested by the quoted poster, maybe with something else. (And if you want your moral complexity in the villain himself, well, let's just say of the four main Trek villain races: Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, and Borg, it isn't even remotely close which of those is the most morally complicated....) ;)

I'm glad we're all in agreement about the two philosophical standpoints banging heads here. In 1966, there was still a sort of acknowledgement of the traditional world view, even if it was to simply ignore or utilize euphemism to gloss over the majority Judeo-Christian ethos---in 1966, even liberal scientists still were people nurtured in this traditional moral and ethical mindset--whether they knew it or not. My theory is that many people still have this view and many others aren't sure; but none the less it's what fires the passions. Humanism, as a plot device is just boring. Nothing like old testament justice to get the crowds pumped. This is why Old movies, old music and old books still find traction, while the last twenty years of culture flounders--except the A-Team and Star Wars of course. But, even Lucas took things too far witht he recent prequels and kneaded in a few too many tablespoons of humanist ingredients, leaving a sour taste in viewers mouths.

Hollywood knows it--J.J. was back to basics with Star Trek---leaving the Humanist agenda back on earth and pushing tried and true beliefs of family, faith and courage.
 
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