I wonder what happened to the half-Cardassian child fathered by Dukat prior to "Covenant".
Never to be seen/heard from/used again
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If you're referring to Tora Ziyal (I think that was her name), Dukat's chief lieutenant Damar killed her to make Dukat turn away from his up-till-then more lenient approach to the Bajorans. Ultimately it backfired when Dukat began to serve the interests of the Pah Wraiths and the Dominion.
Ah. Forgot about her. I haven't seen the episode since it aired.
Problems with the holographic communicator: Unless you make it a defective, see-through, flickering hologram, it's not recognizable as a hologram, it looks like a person is really standing there. And their holograms are better than that.
The Sisko-Eddington story was confusing for the first couple of views. I didn't know who was supposed to be where. The only change to the image was that they shined a bright light from above.
The Sisko-Eddington story was confusing for the first couple of views. I didn't know who was supposed to be where. The only change to the image was that they shined a bright light from above.
I agree. I would have liked to have seen him again, even if it were just in Stormfront.
Here's a link of it's appearances from Memory Alpha http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_of_Forever#Apocrypha
I really love the Voyager novel "Echoes". I really like the sci-fi premise of it and the story's pretty grim but interesting. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Echoes
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I expected to see the Xindi in Enterprise Season 4 somewhere.
I've never been confused watching that episode, not even the first time I saw it when I was eleven years old. The holographic communicator is set up and explained nicely.
The only weird thing is there are a few times where Eddington looks around himself as though he can see the Defiant's bridge, which would be odd given he should only be able to see a holographic image of Sisko. But I've just assumed that was a result of actors getting absorbed in the scene and forgetting the realities of the setting.
I actually don't mind the way things ended with Future Guy since it is actually possible to retcon in the idea that his only real goal for Archer was to inform him of the Xindi. Indeed, all his actions in the first two seasons, at least concerning the NX-01 would seem to reflect this. Consider:
-In Broken Bow Future Guy specifically says he doesn't want the humans involved, and indeed Silik was even willing to let Archer walk away until he learned Archer knew about the TCW. True, Silik then tries to kill Archer, but that seemed a spur of the moment thing and for all we know, Future Guy disapproved.
-In Cold Front Silik is sent to the NX-01 by Future Guy specifically to undo sabotage which would have destroyed the ship.
-The Suliban planting framing the NX-01 for destroying that colony in Shockwave and getting the ship recalled to Earth could have been Future Guy's way of having the ship in the Sol system in time for the Xindi attack so that it could either prevent it or launch a retaliation into the Expanse as soon as possible.
-The fact that Archer foils the plan and his mission continues on could just indicate enough changes were sent in motion to make sure the NX-01 was close enough to Earth to make it in time to the Expanse to retaliate.
-And indeed, after Shockwave Archer has no more trouble from the Suliban except for Future Tense, where they were more interested in the TARDIS-like time pod than Archer, and The Expanse where Archer is finally brought to Future Guy to learn about the Xindi.
-Silik's later return is more in response to the mutual threat posed by the Alien Nazis.
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I first recall it appearing in Who Watches the Watchers (a miserable episode to be sure) and in VOY's Season 7 episode Workforce. I'm sure it was used in DS9 too but would have no idea where to start.
It can be handwaved as a flashback or recollection.
It's just to tell the viewer you're looking at a hologram.
I beg to differ Arnold Judas Rimmer doesn't flicker. Well maybe occasioanlly due to power issues etc..
As far as what the characters see, those problems were probably already well addressed, and there was nothing wrong with what they saw. But the audience needs that flicker to let them know it's a hologram, or they'll wonder why security didn't just up and arrest Eddington(to use the DS9 example).
Look at it this way; the flicker happens for the same reason scan lines can be seen on computer monitors that are not synced with the film cameras in older movies. The camera can only see what's there in each frame it photographs (at 24 frames per second), while the eye is fooled by persistence of vision to not see the monitor's refresh cycle. What we the audience see is the camera detecting the refresh cycle in the hologram.
That flicker rarely happened as a visual quirk in the Holodeck or the Doctor. Either it's outright stated that they're holographic or we would see them materialize/dematerialize, with no worse for wear. Bob Picardo's only playing a hologram, but physically he's on set with the rest of them. The viewer didn't need constant reminders that they're holograms. For that matter, the only times the EMH flickers is if something is wrong, ergo, there's an intentional story purpose.
When much of modern day sci-fi shows a holographic character flickering but otherwise working perfectly, it's a stylistic choice and use of the FX budget, nothing more than a tick. It's bells and whistles, but not consistent with the high levels of technology around them (i.e. holographic characters flicker, but oddly enough, not holographic interfaces, maps, video, screens, etc -- other things that would require just as much detail as a character).
But back to the point, when Eddington appeared on the bridge via hologram, it was clear that it was just that. From a technical standpoint, it allows two actors to face off with each other directly. From a budget standpoint, it's fewer cameras and having no stylistic flickers means less special FX (which Trek already did anyway, because Trek envisioned holograms as primarily stable), and the viewer doesn't need those reminders anyway. It's a win-win, and the powers that be voted against it in favor of the traditional viewscreen. Trek looked forward, Paramount adhered too close to tradition.
See, that's the thing. He was created almost 30 years ago, and he worked (mostly) perfectly. Sci-fi shows, video games, and TV made within the past few years, even if they're fancier and more advanced than any Red Dwarf production or in a setting with significantly more advanced technology, will show that flicker, just because they can. So it's like, in an effort to make the future look more slick, sci-fi tech itself seems to regress.
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The Wormhole, I can't remember if you read the books, but the first Department of Temporal Investigations novel, Watching The Clock, gives an explanation for who Future Guy is, and what his motives are.
Oh, I know. But one other time I posted that theory, the author of the DTI novel himself liked the idea and said he wished he thought of it:
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the-tcw-and-the-caeliar-columbia-temporal-loop.272575/#post-11116480
So, I'm kind of proud of the idea.
Well, seven may not be a death penalty anymore. It's been a couple of years since they went back to Talos IV. And four may have been violated by another ship with disastrous consequences.
The Lenarians. Surprising since they were the catalyst for "Tapestry" http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Lenarian Who the heck were they and why did they attack?
Check out garamet's novel Burning Dreams. Whilst primarily a Pike novel, it deals with what becomes of the Talosians (at least as of the end of the TOS movie era) in a neat way.
Starfleet would never use such shoddy technology, granted the holograms may go nuts and try to kill you on occasion, but they'd do it perfectly intact and stable!
If you tell viewers repeatedly that so-and-so is a hologram and will always BE a hologram, and make that part of who and what the character is, as with Picardo's Dr and Rimmer, of course all the viewers get it. If you spend entire episodes exploring what it means for those characters to be holograms, of course everyone gets it (anyone who cares to, if SF ideas appeal to you).
However, if you hurriedly insert a line in an already-established show with no previous hologramatic communication system that, suddenly, they have one, and that if they see a guy standing in the corner of the room it's not really a guy standing in the corner of the room but a 3D picture of one... AND they instantly move on to the main story of the episode, you'd better have a pretty strong flicker or something.
A problem in fandom: "I picked up on it, therefore anyone and everyone with brains should be expected to." We are not good samples of the audience. Some of us are powerfully driven to notice all bits of exposition and tech details. Others wait to be drawn in by story first.
However, if you hurriedly insert a line in an already-established show with no previous hologramatic communication system that, suddenly, they have one, and that if they see a guy standing in the corner of the room it's not really a guy standing in the corner of the room but a 3D picture of one... AND they instantly move on to the main story of the episode, you'd better have a pretty strong flicker or something.
A problem in fandom: "I picked up on it, therefore anyone and everyone with brains should be expected to." We are not good samples of the audience. Some of us are powerfully driven to notice all bits of exposition and tech details. Others wait to be drawn in by story first.
Really, are stable holograms too much to ask?Starfleet would never use such shoddy technology, granted the holograms may go nuts and try to kill you on occasion, but they'd do it perfectly intact and stable!
*gets shot by a perfectly intact holographic bullet*
I always assumed this was a societal taboo offshoot, historically speaking, of things like the Eugenics wars. That and medicine curing damn near anything, regrowing organs with pills or genetronic replicators and whatnot...Geordi is an outlier based on being born with his specific condition. Later of course he regrows things he never had grown in the first place. The ViSOR is also shown to be something of a weak spot for him later on, so maybe going out into the universe with limbs and bodies that can be hacked by the first teenage bynar with an inferiority complex was considered a bad idea...or just taboo. There's an odd subtext of blood purity underlying that and the way we see alien/human hybrids shown on Trek.
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