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"We killed half of this same sex couple, but don't worry, he's a ghost now."

Eh, doesn't really work for me. It still separates them.
 
They claim they asked some LGBT group after they wrote it if it was good move and they got positive feedback.
 
They claim they asked some LGBT group after they wrote it if it was good move and they got positive feedback.
It was GLAAD and after Culber died thex issued this statement:
"GLAAD is mourning … the death of a beloved groundbreaking character…but death is not always final in the Star Trek universe, and we know the producers plan to continue exploring and telling Stamets and Culber’s epic love story."
Which to me reads like they knew that he was coming back all along.
 
The thing is, though, they killed one half of the first same sex couple on Star Trek, and they did it in the first season. It just crushed me when they did that, I was mad, because there was finally real representation for the first time in a franchise I'd been desperate to see (and would have had hope if I'd saw it as a kid), and they just stole it. They stole it right out from under people.

"We killed half of this same sex couple, but don't worry, he's a ghost now."

Eh, doesn't really work for me. It still separates them.

Absolutely. It was a terrible plot choice, lazy shock value and horribly clichéd. I was really put off by that decision. And you're right, walking it back with a sci-fi handwave almost makes it worse.
 
Is it really walking back if they planned to bring him back from Day 1?

I could understand if they brought him back because of negative feedback, but it sounds like this was always planned.
 
Absolutely. It was a terrible plot choice, lazy shock value and horribly clichéd. I was really put off by that decision. And you're right, walking it back with a sci-fi handwave almost makes it worse.

I was bummed out a lot as well, but it was made clear from the getgo they have longterms plans. I wanna see where those go before I start condemning it.
 
There's no evidence to back up any assertions that STD is a top performer on Netflix.

The fact that they are backing up another truck full of money to CBS' door is all the evidence we really need. Most companies won't keep chasing products they don't want while showering them with cash.
 
Is it really walking back if they planned to bring him back from Day 1?

I could understand if they brought him back because of negative feedback, but it sounds like this was always planned.
It seems like DSC season 1 was so chaotic behind the scenes, its hard to see if any major plan was left. Fuller's certainly wasn't. I'll wait for a tell-all book or the effects of free drinks on a con panel one day. In Vino Sirtis Veritas. has to work on others, too.
 
Is it really walking back if they planned to bring him back from Day 1?

I could understand if they brought him back because of negative feedback, but it sounds like this was always planned.
If anything, it's even stupider - especially as they seemed completely shocked by the very foreseeable criticism the decision elicited. If you're not going to even follow through on the death, or write any indication of it having any impact on Stamets, then why bother doing it? If it was genuinely planned that far in advance, introduce another Landry, a disposable character presented as a major player, for Tyler to murder. Heck, kill off one of the silent bridge crew. The scene wasn't a precursor to a deep character piece or anything like that, it was purely for the WTFOMGBBQ!!!1?!!! moment. So why make half of the first gay couple on Star Trek the victim not a dozen episodes in from their introduction? That's a weird writing decision and shares top spot with the lead being an actual evil twin for "Discovery's worst idea".
 
If anything, it's even stupider - especially as they seemed completely shocked by the very foreseeable criticism the decision elicited. If you're not going to even follow through on the death, or write any indication of it having any impact on Stamets, then why bother doing it? If it was genuinely planned that far in advance, introduce another Landry, a disposable character presented as a major player, for Tyler to murder. Heck, kill off one of the silent bridge crew. The scene wasn't a precursor to a deep character piece or anything like that, it was purely for the WTFOMGBBQ!!!1?!!! moment. So why make half of the first gay couple on Star Trek the victim not a dozen episodes in from their introduction? That's a weird writing decision and shares top spot with the lead being an actual evil twin for "Discovery's worst idea".
Nailed it! I want to see them explore their lives as a couple. I was looking forward to it. We have a person of color playing a prominent role as a doctor, and he's also gay! There's some terrific representation right there, but then he's murdered, but don't worry, the white guy lived, and the doctor is still a time traveling ghost who can interact with him from time to time. Riker and Troi can boink on and off for years, Tom and B'elanna can get married and prosper, but a same sex couple gets together and so now we have to murder one of them. Great move.
 
If anything, it's even stupider - especially as they seemed completely shocked by the very foreseeable criticism the decision elicited. If you're not going to even follow through on the death, or write any indication of it having any impact on Stamets, then why bother doing it? If it was genuinely planned that far in advance, introduce another Landry, a disposable character presented as a major player, for Tyler to murder. Heck, kill off one of the silent bridge crew. The scene wasn't a precursor to a deep character piece or anything like that, it was purely for the WTFOMGBBQ!!!1?!!! moment. So why make half of the first gay couple on Star Trek the victim not a dozen episodes in from their introduction? That's a weird writing decision and shares top spot with the lead being an actual evil twin for "Discovery's worst idea".
You're not a writer on the show. You have absolutely no idea what their plan is. For all you know, Stamets's story arc in Season 2 is to bring Culber back via the Seven Dimensions (or whatever they call the red lights), but in order for that arc to happen and push the story, Culber would need to be... You know... Dead.
 
You're not a writer on the show. You have absolutely no idea what their plan is. For all you know, Stamets's story arc in Season 2 is to bring Culber back via the Seven Dimensions (or whatever they call the red lights), but in order for that arc to happen and push the story, Culber would need to be... You know... Dead.
You know how they could have gotten around that? Not kill him in the first place.

#Writer
 
You know how they could have gotten around that? Not kill him in the first place.

#Writer
If you put plot armor on a gay couple, its going to be obvious and it will limit them.
I like Culber's character, and I dont think he's done by a long shot. he wont be the first trek resurrection.
Also, Stamets facing the man who killed his husband was one of my favorite acted scenes in small screen Trek.
 
If you put plot armor on a gay couple, its going to be obvious and it will limit them.
I like Culber's character, and I dont think he's done by a long shot. he wont be the first trek resurrection.
Also, Stamets facing the man who killed his husband was one of my favorite acted scenes in small screen Trek.
Taking televised Star Trek's very first on screen interracial same sex couple and killing off one of the characters inside of the first season, for shock value, is hack writing. It was just a stupid move. I don't care if he comes back ten times over, the damage is done. Waving their hands and saying "he's a magic time traveling ghost!" doesn't ameliorate that stupidity, not for me.
 
Taking televised Star Trek's very first on screen interracial same sex couple and killing off one of the characters inside of the first season, for shock value, is hack writing.
It wasn't just shock value, it was a significant story point that's rolling over into the second season. You tried though. I have to hand it to the trolls, they're getting more creative, weaponising representation.
 
You are a reason why most writers' rooms avoid LGBT+ stories.
#WriterToo #BigFuckingDeal
It wasn't just shock value, it was a significant story point that's rolling over into the second season. You tried though. I have to hand it to the trolls, they're getting more creative, weaponising representation.
I told you to cool it with the angry rhetoric. Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM.
 
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