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Netflix greenlights new "Lost in Space"

And isn't that basically what the first 5 episodes of the original show were like? Since they were expanded from the original pilot, they were basically one long serialized story with the family facing multiple successive crises. I haven't seen the Netflix show yet, but it sounds like it's largely based on that opening 5-parter.
The first episode is credited as being based on "No Place to Hide", the original pilot; I don't believe that any other episodes had "based on episode X" credits.

Assuming the Wikipedia episode summaries are correct, then the first season of the reboot as a whole is only very loosely based on the opening arc; I only recognize one specific event/concept that was realized in the reboot.
 
I think we're being too hard on the show. They're actually trying something close to science, unlike the original. We can start complaining when a person turning into lettuce or they try to pass off a chimp in a hat as an alien.
I call it Space:1999 syndrome. The sets and props look fantastically believable. But the dialog and plot doesn't really live in the same world. I mean it's not TERRIBLE. And better than the original LIS or Trek TOS.

But when you have schmutz in your eye your eyes water. Just like happened to Chris Hadfield when he got stuff in his eye on a spacewalk, an incident that LIS seems to have directly copied. (They probably saw it in the press materials for The Martian which they also pretty directly copied.) Problem is when you have tears in space they stick to your eyes!

You just have to remember that this isn't really "that kind of show" even if it occasionally sounds like it wants to be. (I thought they were going to do something MUCH cooler with the black hole.)
 
There are so many moments where there's "wandering dialog" between people that has nothing to do with the context. That's fine if it's for about 20 seconds. But minutes? I get impatient and fast forward. And those two kids with their budding love interest... I really don't think people under that kind of stress are going to spend time "date chatting". Seriously, how could anyone be in the mood, especially after a parent may have just died? Many disjointed context of moments. Parker Posey's acting isn't very believable. I think she was badly cast for June Harris (initially posing as Dr. Smith). Max Jenkins is doing OK as Will Robinson, but the writing for him is weak. Brilliant kid in some respects, utterly stupid in others. He realizes there's something "off" about Dr. Smith. His mother locked her up. But he releases her after Dr. Smith somehow convinces him that his mom isn't quite right in the head? Uhhhh... Will knows his mother better than that.

This LiS reboot seems to struggle with how to keep tethered to the original show, while innovating in other ways. Take for instance the reprogramming of the robot. That happened in the original series pilot, but was quickly resolved. The reboot made it a much larger plot device, but implemented it in a peculiar way. Why would simple physical detachment of parts or running down of power cause the robot to lose all memory and "start over"? Doesn't really make any sense. I could understand it happening with the ship crashing... some kind of electromagnetic surge from the ship. But falling off a cliff? At one point the robot touches a piece of ship debris and suddenly it relives its memory of the original mission, hunting down humans. Face panel turns red. But it's "transient", as after letting go of the debris, the robot goes back to "blank." But then later... after Dr. Smith took over, Will is able to break through it by pleading with the robot. And suddenly, miraculously, the robot turns on its other companion robot. That's just screwed up logic. Core firmware would have info about its nomenclature and trusted hardware--other robots. That would override everything. Just not believable.

And don't get me started on that wacky rapid-freezing of water. When it started happening, my jaw dropped with a big WTF. Water doesn't do that! Doesn't matter what planet. Besides, if somehow, some insane temperature drop took place to cause it, then everybody trying to help Judy would've become instant ice pillars. Their skin was exposed! How the hell... Now maybe, just maybe, there could have been some special compound in the water never before seen that has a peculiar capability of freezing water rapidly below a certain temperature. But at least have someone discover that using a sensing device. Oh and last but not least... in order for water to freeze, it needs to be nearly still. Why didn't Judy keep thrashing about to delay the freezing of water around her? She's supposed to be so incredibly smart.


Hyperintelligent plot water that freezes when the plot needs it to. It's camera shy too.





The first episode is credited as being based on "No Place to Hide", the original pilot; I don't believe that any other episodes had "based on episode X" credits.

Assuming the Wikipedia episode summaries are correct, then the first season of the reboot as a whole is only very loosely based on the opening arc; I only recognize one specific event/concept that was realized in the reboot.

I recognize the planet having a weird orbit that made it super hot one time and super cold the other, and that was in the first 5 or so episodes of the old show.
 
I didn't see it as "programming". To me the robot grew attached to WIll because Will helped/saved it, so it realized he was "okay". Smith later tells the robot that it can't trust Will, and what does Will do? Walk him off a cliff. So now it gets reassembled because of Smith, so now it goes, "oh, my real friend. But when it sees Will in actual danger its attachment to home overrides everything else.

Yeah, there's stuff that doesn't make sense, but the robot's motivations were not part of that.
 
The Robinsons Were Here
A very good episode, realistically protraying the effects of fear (from Judy, regarding the Robot). The conversation between Maureen and John beneath the satellite dish was also well done. 8.5/10.


Transmission
8/10.


Eulogy
A very good episode, particularly the scene between Will and John at the cairn. 9/10.


Pressurized
A lot of interesting developments. One scene in particular is confronting, but well worth seeing. 8/10.
 
I call it Space:1999 syndrome. The sets and props look fantastically believable. But the dialog and plot doesn't really live in the same world. I mean it's not TERRIBLE. And better than the original LIS or Trek TOS.

But when you have schmutz in your eye your eyes water. Just like happened to Chris Hadfield when he got stuff in his eye on a spacewalk, an incident that LIS seems to have directly copied. (They probably saw it in the press materials for The Martian which they also pretty directly copied.) Problem is when you have tears in space they stick to your eyes!

You just have to remember that this isn't really "that kind of show" even if it occasionally sounds like it wants to be. (I thought they were going to do something MUCH cooler with the black hole.)
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed with that. My first gut reaction, when Maureen discovered the Hawking radiation was „time dilation“. I thought she‘d deduce that the messages they received from Resolute were just delayed by that effect and it was long gone and therefore couldn‘t receive the replies. Basically a Sound of her Voice scenario.
And the closer the planet got to the Black hole the more centuries earth time passed them by.
Instead they just treated it like a generic space hazard.
I suppose it would have been pretty dark to have all the Jupiter‘s escape the planet and get stranded in space or caught in the black hole gravity well while the Robinsons only escape because they got the FTL drive aboard.
 
Just how much damage did the Resolute suffer because there's a great chunk of it on the planet and the antenna dish, yet in the last episode it tries to scoop them up and looks all but fixed?

Spoiler just in case people missed the final episode.
 
Just how much damage did the Resolute suffer because there's a great chunk of it on the planet and the antenna dish, yet in the last episode it tries to scoop them up and looks all but fixed?

Spoiler just in case people missed the final episode.
they could eventually come back to it and discover that the Resolute timetraveled and crashed on the planet eventually. Not expecting it, but could be possible.
 
Just how much damage did the Resolute suffer because there's a great chunk of it on the planet and the antenna dish, yet in the last episode it tries to scoop them up and looks all but fixed?

Spoiler just in case people missed the final episode.
It was a taste of "Voyager syndrome." ;) Yeah, when that alien craft rammed into the Resolute in Episode 1, it looked like about 25% of the ship was cleaved off the hull, and we certainly see a good bit of debris on the surface of the planet... what survived the tortuous heat of reentry, that is (so it should have been even more). The huge communications dish mostly intact? Pretty unbelievable. And actually, I was thinking
wouldn't it have made sense to cut it into a few sections and place in the cargo holds of a couple Jupiter ships so that it could be reattached to the Resolute once they achieved rendezvous?
 
And actually, I was thinking
wouldn't it have made sense to cut it into a few sections and place in the cargo holds of a couple Jupiter ships so that it could be reattached to the Resolute once they achieved rendezvous?
They were quite in a hurry...
 
That's legally as much damage as they could inflict.

Legally?


Hey fun speculation time.

They were watching a promotional video for the Alpha Centauri colony which showed a row of Jupiter ships all parked near each other like some kind of flying RVs which is essentially what they are. Anyway that looked so utopian and nice but I can't shake the feeling it's a lot darker then what they show.

For one thing people like Don are not allowed to land there and live but it's fine to use them to haul your stuff from Earth and anyway he has a nice side job bringing them all their vices with his smuggling. But it seems he won't be allowed to live there and that was based on how disgruntled he was with them and dialog.

So I get the feeling it's all really stinky what they are doing and for all we know there isn't a colony at all but something darker.
 
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