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Netflix’s Lost in Space Season 2

That is why I never kept up with LOST...... It was layer upon layer of mystery box with little to no payoff. Even when the writers said out loud most of it was made up as they went along people thought it was deep and meaningful.

Yeah, the lack of payoff was a big turnoff for me in Season 2. I mean, you spend so much time leading viewers around with characters that in the end don't really mean a thing. I quite liked season 1, as I felt it had an interesting premise and was willing to give the show a chance. Obviously, countless others felt the same way as it became enormously popular. But where it gets me is that it feels as though the writers and producers misjudged the things that made it popular, instead increasing things that should have been kept minimal, ie the mystery box being increased in a significant way for season 2. As such, I felt the mystery box took over leaving the narrative to the sidelines. I felt bad for the writers because there was so much potential, but I kept picturing them being interrupted by suits telling them they needed to write in another mystery box. By the time the season 2 finale rolled around, I was unimpressed and frustrated, and I haven't watched Season 3 because it had left such a sour taste behind. It struck me as wrong, because why should a writing method completely take over from the story you're trying to tell?

but then the show became a hit and the network pressured the showrunners to slow the pace of the story arc so they could spread it out to more episodes, and all of a sudden the rich character arcs stopped evolving and either regressed or fell into holding patterns

That more or less describes what happened to House of Cards to me. First few seasons followed the British counterpart's storyline, but once the show became a hit, the narrative was slowed to the point that it was rarely ever referred to in later seasons. Felt like they weren't even interested in closing any of the story threads, and while it felt like there was enough evidence to implicate Frank Underwood in his underhanded dealings, it all seemed to wash over and he seemed to always get his way. It also explains why the show felt mostly random in the later seasons, with it not really leading anywhere. The final episode felt like a finger to the viewers for sticking it out. Always felt that they should have closed out the early storylines properly so that they could move on.
 
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That more or less describes what happened to House of Cards to me. First few seasons followed the British counterpart's storyline, but once the show became a hit, the narrative was slowed to the point that it was rarely ever referred to in later seasons. Felt like they weren't even interested in closing any of the story threads, and while it felt like there was enough evidence to implicate Frank Underwood in his underhanded dealings, it all seemed to wash over and he seemed to always get his way. It also explains why the show felt mostly random in the later seasons, with it not really leading anywhere. The final episode felt like a finger to the viewers for sticking it out. Always felt that they should have closed out the early storylines properly so that they could move on.

People complain about Netflix's tendency to cancel shows too soon, and sometimes that's a justified complaint (Dark Crystal), but there are abundant examples in American TV of shows that just dragged out too long. A limited run is often a good way to go. And a story should not be forced to drag on longer than it needs to.
 
Yeah, I definitely feel House of Cards went on far longer than it should have. They had ran out of steam long ago and kept on going. I'd have been fine with House of Cards ending with a 3rd or 4th season where it would have been more focused.
 
Speaking of seasons, there were rumors that Lost in Space season 3 is going to be the last, right?

If so, there's little chance we'll see any merchandise coming 'round. Action figures, ships...
 
Speaking of seasons, there were rumors that Lost in Space season 3 is going to be the last, right?

If so, there's little chance we'll see any merchandise coming 'round. Action figures, ships...

It's more than rumor:
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/lost-in-space-renewed-final-season-3-netflix-1203527726/

About Netflix's House of Cards, I agree with those who felt it went way too long. And that feeling tripled after I looked at the original House of Cards. That was like 9 or 12 episodes in total, spread over several years, and was more concise than the six seasons of Netflix's version.

I think the Spacey-Wright HOC lost their way after season two and never really got the magic back.
The whole twist of Claire running as Frank's VP was too fantastical and ridiculous even for fiction. The final season, with Claire in the Oval Office just didn't feel that thought out, and didn't take enough advantage of what Wright had brought, and could bring, to the role, and wasted the supporting cast.
 
The whole twist of Claire running as Frank's VP was too fantastical and ridiculous even for fiction. The final season, with Claire in the Oval Office just didn't feel that thought out, and didn't take enough advantage of what Wright had brought, and could bring, to the role, and wasted the supporting cast.

Agreed. I was seriously hoping that she would have had enough of his games, as per the British series, and throw him to the wolves by revealing all the proof she had. They were kind of hinting towards that during either the 3rd or 4th season, but nothing came out of it and they just dragged and dragged.
 
Something I haven't figured out even after rewatching the episode is when they get off the ocean planet, what is their fuel source? At the end of season 1, they use up almost all of their fuel rescuing John and Don and have just enough to make an emergency landing. In season 2, they seem to have fuel but don't have the power to start the engines. Was this just a retcon or did I miss something?
 
Something I haven't figured out even after rewatching the episode is when they get off the ocean planet, what is their fuel source?

I don't recall if they specified, but many rockets today are fueled by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. You can extract those from water with electrolysis, and they were on an ocean planet.
 
I don't recall if they specified, but many rockets today are fueled by liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. You can extract those from water with electrolysis, and they were on an ocean planet.
In the first season they specifically say that their fuel is methane based, that’s how they’re able to process the animal dung into fuel.
 
In the first season they specifically say that their fuel is methane based, that’s how they’re able to process the animal dung into fuel.

IIRC, while they were stranded on the ocean planet, they had a greenhouse where they grew their food. Decaying vegetation releases methane.
 
IIRC, while they were stranded on the ocean planet, they had a greenhouse where they grew their food. Decaying vegetation releases methane.
I guess that could make sense. Presumably, the process of converting it into fuel would then be what used up the power. I would have liked some mention of it on-screen, though. Just so it doesn't feel like an oversight by the writers.
 
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