NCC -1701 (TOS).....

[BillJ]

In this instance?

I don't know? You're the one being irrational. I said I see the Enterprise as a character. Me. I did not try to push that as a fandom worldview. You're the one coming with the virtual ruler, "WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!" You could have let the comment just pass. The entire world wasn't going to get infected because I stretched the current meaning of a word. I even admit I'm stretching the current meaning. Still, "WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!" is the response.

I never realized until the past few months how rigid and inflexible many Trek fans are about most everything in life.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't know? You're the one being irrational. I said I see the Enterprise as a character. Me. I did not try to push that as a fandom worldview. You're the one coming with the virtual ruler, "WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!" You could have let the comment just pass. The entire world wasn't going to get infected because I stretched the current meaning of a word. I even admit I'm stretching the current meaning. Still, "WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!" is the response.

I never realized until the past few months how rigid and inflexible Trek fans are about most everything in life.

A curious response.

More interestingly is the idea that my only purpose is right vs. wrong.

More intersing to me is why? What drives this behavior? It is a curiosity of mine to understand a point of view I can't quite grasp. By debating it I don't seek wrong or beratement or to prevent a supposed infection. Rather, to find out the value of this point of view, why it is so important that being irrational is prized, that many people hold this view to the point that there is a TV Trope page.

It is fascinating from a deeply human point of view, but it is a point of view I can't grasp quite yet.

Maybe tomorrow.

 

[1001001]

This stops now, or you’ll both get thread reply bans.

The End.

 

[Shawnster]

Back to the subject

https://fanfilmfactor.com/2018/05/1...-and-the-golden-ratio-mind-blowing-editorial/

Article discussing the mathematical golden ratio that can be found in the TOS Enterprise. This is something I found woefully lacking in the JJ-Prise and, perhaps, explains why I did not find that design appealing.

 

[Citiprime]

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The basic shape of the ship is weird if you're coming at it looking for familiar "spaceship" design aspects (e.g., I've seen people unfamiliar with Star Trek expecting rocket flames to shoot out of the nacelles). But I think it's also interesting because it's a collection of geometric shapes arranged in a way that looks both futuristic and alien, but also familiar.

From a comment for the above YouTube video:

"I think it unconsciously evokes a human, or at least humanoid shape. It has a torso (the secondary hull), a neck (neck), and even limbs (the pylons and nacelles)."​

 

[Mudd]

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https://fanfilmfactor.com/2018/05/1...-and-the-golden-ratio-mind-blowing-editorial/

Article discussing the mathematical golden ratio that can be found in the TOS Enterprise. This is something I found woefully lacking in the JJ-Prise and, perhaps, explains why I did not find that design appealing.

It's an oversold notion, like Chekhov's Gun.

 

[fireproof78]

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The basic shape of the ship is weird if you're coming at it looking for familiar "spaceship" design aspects (e.g., I've seen people unfamiliar with Star Trek expecting rocket flames to shoot out of the nacelles). But I think it's also interesting because it's a collection of geometric shapes arranged in a way that looks both futuristic and alien, but also familiar.

I think that is a strength of the design.

Simple enough that even.poor artists, like myself, could replicate it.

 

[BillJ]

Simple enough that even.poor artists, like myself, could replicate it.

People could imagine the action and replicate some small part of it on their own. I like that idea.

 

[publiusr]

Speaking of my favorite swan---scuttlebutt at the RPF has it that the THREE FOOT ENTERPRISE has been found!

 

[Tallguy]

Speaking of my favorite swan---scuttlebutt at the RPF has it that the THREE FOOT ENTERPRISE has been found!

 

[BK613]

Speaking of my favorite swan---scuttlebutt at the RPF has it that the THREE FOOT ENTERPRISE has been found!

Here's the link to the relevant thread at therpf.com
It's looks legit (or is one of the best fakes of all time.)

link to the original ebay auction (that was pulled down without a single bid)

 

[Tallguy]

First the Botany Bay and now this? What's next, the Romulan ship from Balance of Terror?

 

[Tomalak]

This is crazy. Hopefully it ends up in safe hands, and they've not just pulled it to relist it for a million bucks.

 

[Tallguy]

 

[Henoch]

Here's the link to the relevant thread at therpf.com
It's looks legit (or is one of the best fakes of all time.)

link to the original ebay auction (that was pulled down without a single bid)

Looks legit to me, too. Legalities of ownership are probably now in play.

 

[F. King Daniel]

You guys do know they'll probably give the SNW Enterprise a magic refit in the last episode and have a final scene on the Official Set Tour bridge, right? After everyone went mad over the Enterprise-D in Picard it's got to be an idea they're floating about.

Silly as it is.

 

[Tallguy]

You guys do know they'll probably give the SNW Enterprise a magic refit in the last episode and have a final scene on the Official Set Tour bridge, right? After everyone went mad over the Enterprise-D in Picard it's got to be an idea they're floating about.

Silly as it is.

Not a snowflake's.

 

[fireproof78]

You guys do know they'll probably give the SNW Enterprise a magic refit in the last episode and have a final scene on the Official Set Tour bridge, right? After everyone went mad over the Enterprise-D in Picard it's got to be an idea they're floating about.

Silly as it is.

After Picard Season 3 I see that coming in far more strongly than before. The temptation to indulge fan whims is too strong.

 

[Tomalak]

Depends, if they carry on the show into a TOS remake with Paul Wesley it will stay as-is. If it ends with Pike symbolically handing over the ship, there is a pretty high likelihood it will be "refit" into the retro version.

 

[Tallguy]

Jaws will drop when the last episode introduces: The Phase II Enterprise.