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NCAA Football 2008 Discussion - It All Starts Here.

Well Oregon has reached that stretch of the season where they normally collapse. Two games left, against Arizona and Oregon State. They could finish 9-3 or 7-5. Based on the past few seasons I'm leaning towards 7-5 and some place like the Las Vegas Bowl. :(
 
And the turnaround is now complete: Rutgers has officially resurrected its season after a 49-16 disintegration of preseason Big East favorite South Florida (in Tampa no less), continuing the Bulls' annual late year freefall. RU is 4-2 in the conference, and still mathematically (if not quite realistically) alive for a BCS bowl bid.

Here's the scenario:
  • Pittsburgh beats Cincinnati, which may very well occur
  • Pittsburgh handles West Virginia, again not unlikely
  • Syracuse upsets Cincinnati (and here I'm asking for a minor miracle)
  • Rutgers dismisses Louisville, a likely happenstance now
  • South Florida defeats West Virginia, which I believe is a real possibility despite the Bulls' swoon, in large measure because USF pretty much owns the Mountaineers now
  • Connecticut surprises Pittsburgh, again not too much to ask
If all this occurs, it leaves WVU and Cincinnati at 4-3 in the conference, with Pittsburgh and RU finishing in a tie for first at 5-2. Since Rutgers crushed Pitt at Heinz Field, the 7-5 (or even 6-6, assuming a catastrophic and near impossible loss to Army in Piscataway) Scarlet Knights would claim the Big East title (and commensurate BCS bowl bid) over the 9-3 Panthers, based on the head-to-head bitch-slapping they gave Pitt. :techman:

Ironically enough, Rutgers' first Big East championship might be the catalyst for the conference's forfeiture of an automatic BCS bid. :eek:

We'll take it, though.
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[Does anyone know if the BCS could underhandedly and unjustly circumvent this by choosing Pitt as the representative simply because there's a tie and the Panthers have a superior record?]
 
[Does anyone know if the BCS could underhandedly and unjustly circumvent this by choosing Pitt as the representative simply because there's a tie and the Panthers have a superior record?]
I found this (emphasis added):
Automatic Qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

2. The champions of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls after the 2006 and 2007 regular seasons.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

* Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
* Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
here.

The bolded part would seem at first glance to indicate that a higher ranked Utah or Boise State would be selected ahead of a 6-6 or 7-5 Rutgers. But who knows? Certainly not me.
 
This is just unbelievable what Florida is doing to a good South Carolina team today!

At this stage of the season, I REALLY want to see a national title game between Texas Tech and Florida. With all due respect to Oklahoma and Alabama, that game would be impressive for several reasons:

1.) Reigning Heisman winner against the heir apparent (possibly)

2.) Two nuclear powered offenses, possibly the two best, trading blows.

3.) Two exceptionally fine defenses.


Wow!!!

I honestly am having trouble recalling the last time I saw a team have a run like this, such as the Gators have been on the last 6 games
 
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Is that the same Miss. St. that just ended a 78 yd drive with a TD to go ahead of Alabama in the 2nd qtr? :lol:

No, anything can happen, it's true. And if Bama pulls out this game tonight, they will no doubt be Florida's toughest game this year. Of course, that presumes the Gators don't stumble against FSU.
 
That game's still young, we'll see. In the meantime Stanford is tied with USC at the half 17-17. Another upset? Probably not, but who knows?
 
Oh I know. Even if Miss. St has won the last two seasons, this Bama team will not lose to them again. Their defense is far too disciplined.

Your Ducks are looking good tonight, though.

And Oreg. St. wins again. This team ... it's hard to believe these wee the ones who looked so lost and pathetic at the beginning of the year. They have a couple of nasty games left, but there is a real chance they get to meet Penn St. in the Rose Bowl. That oughta be amped up nicely!
 
Seemingly forgotten in Florida's run is the fact that they stumbled at home to Ole Miss. If they're the best team in the country, they certainly haven't proven it yet. Texas Tech, however, has.

Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

I thought there was something to that effect in the BCS bylaws, Neroon. Pitt's 8-3 record winning the Big East some years ago saw to that. They got their automatic bid, and were subsequently crushed by what may still be Urban Meyer's best team ever—the 2004 Utah Utes. [He insists to this day that said O-line is better than any he's had at Florida.]

I can't say I blame them: A 7-5 Rutgers doesn't belong anywhere near a BCS bowl. I was just hopin' there'd been an oversight.
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Nobody's forgotten that loss to Miss. As I said, TT and Florida is the game I'd most like to see, because of all it'd bring to the table and because I feel those two teams are playing the best at the moment. I am not saying they belong there over Dama and TT, since both of them are undefeated and over a generally quality schedule.

Right now Florida is playing better than anyone else. Period. So Cal was the only team that could match the Gators performances, and the Trojans are having a nightmarish trouble with Stanford - again. If the Gators beat Bama in the SEC title game - a big if but a definitely possible one - there is nobody else I can see deserving the BCS title birth more than them and Texas Tech - and that's if they win their games left . The Gators control their destiny, as thinks most every commentator I have heard today, because of who they've beaten, how they've beaten them and where they've beaten them.
 
If Texas Tech beats Oklahoma at Norman, I might change my mind. However, Tech's two big wins were at home. Florida has lost and it was at home. Not good at all. BUT look at what they've done since then, with destructive wins on the road. Like I said, Florida is playing the best right NOW, not over the whole season. ;)

Besides, all it takes is to be #2 in the BCS. You don't need to be #1.

BTW... anyone watching what TROY is doing to LSU? :eek:
 
Care to elaborate on why you feel that way? I'm not a Les Miles fan, just curious.
 
Like I said, Florida is playing the best right NOW, not over the whole season. ;)

You think Florida's admittedly impressive flurry counts for more than consecutive victories over Texas and Oklahoma State—each arguably better than any team UF's defeated. I don't. Impasse.

Don't get me wrong. I think Florida's playing terrific ball, and desperately trying to atone for their loss to Ole Miss. I also think they take over as "the team playing the best ball" definitively if TTU stumbles in Norman.

If the Red Raiders win, though, even by a point, the argument is over in their favor until the BCS title game, assuming both win out.
 
It's because of how Miles left Oklahoma State. There were a lot of hard feelings between him and the team. He'd told them that he wasn't leaving to accept the LSU offer even though he'd accepted it. The team found out right before their bowl game. Before he left for Shreveport, Miles asked Gundy for the opportunity to speak to the team again. Gundy told him to go fuck himself. Coaches move on. It happens, but Les should have leveled with the team when the question came up. He was really unprofessional the way he handled it.
 
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