NBC still clueless what was wrong with Heroes
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Right because the last attempt at a revival worked out so well.
I stuck with it and enjoyed it a lot longer than most people even I gave up on the original before it ended. I gave the other revival a try and I think I only gave it a few episodes before I moved on.
Right because the last attempt at a revival worked out so well.
I stuck with it and enjoyed it a lot longer than most people even I gave up on the original before it ended. I gave the other revival a try and I think I only gave it a few episodes before I moved on.
I watched all four seasons of the original, even though the last three seasons were painfully slow and uneventful. They had interesting ideas, they just never followed through on them. One of the actors said Heroes was like act one, act two, back to act one. Tried to watch Heroes Reborn but gave up after the first episode.
The most perfectly timed thread necromancy in Internet history.
Well, i didn't do this accidentally. I purposely looked for Heroes on the Eclipse day, because an eclipse
I also chose to get an "old" one because i doubt people are searching the sci-fi forum in general, let alone for Heroes threads. And those who were a part of it before probably still has some interest, and would at least smile at the connection with the Eclipse..
Now, maybe Kring made his announcement purposeful as well, and titled it accordingly?
The problem with heroes tends to be the same problems that a lot of super-hero shows tend to have, although in many cases it takes longer for the problem to catch up because (1) the writing tends to be better and (2) they aren't casualties of a strike year.
Comic books work because they revolve around a main character(s) and relatively small cast of characters that come into their lives. Although they tend to end on cliffhangers with each issue, they do move on to different stories with different villains and different problems. With Heroes, Season 2 tried to keep many characters who no longer served a purpose to the story and then those characters stayed around. Season 2's premise wasn't bad but it was weighed down by the baggage of those other characters. Yes, I acknowledge that some characters were written out. But there was no reason to keep Sylar, for example. The characters that remain need to develop and grow, like they do in detective novel series or shows like the best of Star Trek. That didn't really happen with Heroes beyond a superficial level. Even though the attempt was made at new story arcs each season, it didn't really feel like the main characters we care about were growing personally or even as supers.
What made Season 1 great was that it was so tightly focused and had a great arc. Other seasons tended to wander and didn't really introduce intriguing concepts. Other series like the Flash had similar problems where the first few seasons had interesting and cohesive arcs and then after the third or fourth season it seemed like the ideas that could fill an entire season just dried up.
Comic books work because they revolve around a main character(s) and relatively small cast of characters that come into their lives. Although they tend to end on cliffhangers with each issue, they do move on to different stories with different villains and different problems. With Heroes, Season 2 tried to keep many characters who no longer served a purpose to the story and then those characters stayed around. Season 2's premise wasn't bad but it was weighed down by the baggage of those other characters. Yes, I acknowledge that some characters were written out. But there was no reason to keep Sylar, for example. The characters that remain need to develop and grow, like they do in detective novel series or shows like the best of Star Trek. That didn't really happen with Heroes beyond a superficial level. Even though the attempt was made at new story arcs each season, it didn't really feel like the main characters we care about were growing personally or even as supers.
What made Season 1 great was that it was so tightly focused and had a great arc. Other seasons tended to wander and didn't really introduce intriguing concepts. Other series like the Flash had similar problems where the first few seasons had interesting and cohesive arcs and then after the third or fourth season it seemed like the ideas that could fill an entire season just dried up.
You take a pretty girl, then you take a pretty boy and promise your audience that they will roger like rabbits, and that you might accidentally see the slip of something you shouldn't see (I just saw Marvel's own Vision's naked bum on a rerun of Sharpe.) until you announce that they are actually uncle and niece, and that they should resist the clear and present urge.
So maybe she should bang the evil sexy brooding Darth Vader type?
Nope.
Also her uncle.
Then she finds a nonblood relative to make out with.
Oh? You fly?
Like my dad.
You remind me of my dad.
I'd like a blood test.
So maybe she should bang the evil sexy brooding Darth Vader type?
Nope.
Also her uncle.
Then she finds a nonblood relative to make out with.
Oh? You fly?
Like my dad.
You remind me of my dad.
I'd like a blood test.
Doesn't it make more sense to reboot at this point?
You remember it MUCH clearer then me.
I mainly remember them trying more and more absurd ways to limit the basically unstoppable Sylar as a threat. And a serious misunderstanding of how an eclipse works.
You remember it MUCH clearer then me.
I mainly remember them trying more and more absurd ways to limit the basically unstoppable Sylar as a threat. And a serious misunderstanding of how an eclipse works.
I assumed that the eclipses were a red herring and that all their powers really came from Cockroaches. The fist season was obsessed with a roach motifs, it was really yucky.
Season one also had a very you and sexy Santiago Cabrera, Picard's Christobal Rios in there shirtless, a lot.
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I looked at Heroes years later, after it was off air, and the excitement had died down. I liked the first season, but don't get why it got the praise it got. (To be fair, by the time I did look at Heroes, it was in the beginning of the comic book movie/television boom, and so it looked less impressive beside the MCU or the Arrowverse, which despite its limitations, was allowed to embrace superhero costumes and other comic booky things that I felt Heroes held back-or was held back- from).
That said, I think it held together better than the second season, which felt unfocused to me. I actually liked the third season a lot, because I enjoyed the main villain, and it had an X-Men vibe. The fourth season was just okay, but nothing all that special from what I recall. I came into Heroes: Reborn excited, but that fizzled. I did like the main villain, and the Batman-like vigilante, but the two main heroes were bland. I was iffy on the hero-killing couple too, though admittedly, I wasn't much of a fan of Zachary Levi and that played a role in how I saw them at first, but I warmed to Levi as the miniseries went on.
I'm not opposed to a revival, but I don't know what story is left. Maybe if they find a way to bring Hayden Panettiere back and build a story around her character, that might create more interest.
That said, I think it held together better than the second season, which felt unfocused to me. I actually liked the third season a lot, because I enjoyed the main villain, and it had an X-Men vibe. The fourth season was just okay, but nothing all that special from what I recall. I came into Heroes: Reborn excited, but that fizzled. I did like the main villain, and the Batman-like vigilante, but the two main heroes were bland. I was iffy on the hero-killing couple too, though admittedly, I wasn't much of a fan of Zachary Levi and that played a role in how I saw them at first, but I warmed to Levi as the miniseries went on.
I'm not opposed to a revival, but I don't know what story is left. Maybe if they find a way to bring Hayden Panettiere back and build a story around her character, that might create more interest.
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