Narnia 3 aka Voyage of the Dawn Treader - Grade,Review,Speculate

[Allyn Gibson]

As for the plot, even though the events are rearranged (and the slavers are taken from The Silver Chair),

They're not, actually. They're a part of Dawn Treader, and the Lone Islands episode is somewhat larger, with a more direct confrontation between Caspian and the corrupt Governor Gumpas after Drinian and co. free them from the slavers.

My apologies. It's been a long time since I've read either book, and I was misinterpreting what Apted said about pulling elements of The Silver Chair into the film of Dawn Treader. I thought it was the slavers that came from Silver Chair, but it appears that it's the green mist that has some connection to the latter book. And some Narnia fansites say even that's an exaggeration, so I don't know what to think. I should just reread the books.

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

I thought it did a good job of taking a very episodic novel and tying the independent chapters together into a more comprehensive story. For example, I thought it was a good idea to have Eustace remain a dragon through much of the movie rather than just one chapter.

I thought it was a much more entertaining movie than Prince Caspian. I suspect this is because it is based on a much more interesting novel. However, to be fair I remember almost nothing about the novel Prince Caspian, having last read it when I was about eight or nine. I reread Dawn Treader far more recently so it's more clear in my memory.

The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is still my favorite of the movies.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Posted by Allyn Gibson:

Right after they meet Caspian, there's a line from Caspian that made me wonder, for maybe ten minutes, if Caspian were going to make a move on Lucy.

If he did, that would've been sick.

 

[Thestral]

They're not, actually. They're a part of Dawn Treader, and the Lone Islands episode is somewhat larger, with a more direct confrontation between Caspian and the corrupt Governor Gumpas after Drinian and co. free them from the slavers.

My apologies. It's been a long time since I've read either book, and I was misinterpreting what Apted said about pulling elements of The Silver Chair into the film of Dawn Treader. I thought it was the slavers that came from Silver Chair, but it appears that it's the green mist that has some connection to the latter book. And some Narnia fansites say even that's an exaggeration, so I don't know what to think. I should just reread the books.

No worries. I hadn't heard that what Apted said about pulling Silver Chair elements into Dawn Treader. I can see how the Green Mist makes some sense, yeah.

He might also (maybe) be talking about Liliandil, since she never actually appears in the novel and is only mentioned as "Ramandu's Daughter" who Caspian ends up marrying; the movie took out Ramandu entirely, but I can see why since he'd be easy to get confused with Coriakin the Wizard (IMO). He might also mean Jill since Eustace (I don't think?) knew her before The Silver Chair, but that'd be stretching it I think.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

If this movie can make $100m that will mean it had a 4.0 multiplier which is tough. Too bad it's still not a good total considering its production budget.

4X multipliers are common for December releases because of holiday legs.

Dawn Treader had a really good Tuesday, increasing over Monday by 19.6% and taking in $2,660,104 for a domestic gross to date of $47,637,400. If it keeps up legs like this it could get over the $100 million mark, and potentially reach, say, $110-115 million. It needs domestic legs like that and a good foreign total if Fox and Walden Media are to look at whether a continuation at a further reduced budget is worth their while.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Eustace was classmates mates with Jill at the time of the Silver Chair which is probably why there was a literal shout out to her at the end of the film. I didn't really notice much of the Silver Chair elements in this movie until my brother ended up pointing them out to me.

 

[Thestral]

Eustace was classmates mates with Jill at the time of the Silver Chair which is probably why there was a literal shout out to her at the end of the film. I didn't really notice much of the Silver Chair elements in this movie until my brother ended up pointing them out to me.

Ah yes, that's right. Do you think they were close enough for her to show up at his house during what looked like summer months? What Silver Chair elements did your brother point out?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I hadn't heard that what Apted said about pulling Silver Chair elements into Dawn Treader. I can see how the Green Mist makes some sense, yeah.

It's in this Reuters article:

He and the screenwriters spent two years coming up with an alternative, eventually deciding to borrow from the fourth Narnia novel "The Silver Chair" and its theme of captives being held underground as a way of moving the story along.

Reading that, and with decade old memories of the books in question, I glommed onto "captives" and got to the slavers.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Pretty much what Allyn already pointed out. Regarding Eustace and Jill's relationship...he confesses to her at the beginning of "The Silver Chair" of his adventures in Narnia with his cousins. He also tells her that it is through his experiences that his behavior changed which people start noticing. It's implied that they've known each other a while and that at least to some extent Eustace trusts Jill. Someone can correct me...it's been a long while since I've read the novel. I really want to see this made now. LOL It would also be interesting to see an aged Ben Barnes play King Caspian one last time (Caspian has a minor cameo).

Actually I forgot that Eustace saves Jill from bullies at Experiment House but can't remember if this is part of their backstory or was in the novel.

 

[Thestral]

It's in this Reuters article:

He and the screenwriters spent two years coming up with an alternative, eventually deciding to borrow from the fourth Narnia novel "The Silver Chair" and its theme of captives being held underground as a way of moving the story along.

Reading that, and with decade old memories of the books in question, I glommed onto "captives" and got to the slavers.

Thanks!

Pretty much what Allyn already pointed out. Regarding Eustace and Jill's relationship...he confesses to her at the beginning of "The Silver Chair" of his adventures in Narnia with his cousins. He also tells her that it is through his experiences that his behavior changed which people start noticing. It's implied that they've known each other a while and that at least to some extent Eustace trusts Jill. Someone can correct me...it's been a long while since I've read the novel. I really want to see this made now. LOL It would also be interesting to see an aged Ben Barnes play King Caspian one last time (Caspian has a minor cameo).

Heh, yeah, good points. I agree, after seeing what a good job they did with Dawn Treader I'd like to see Silver Chair (which was always my favorite).

 

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah a lot of fans have stated that "The Silver Chair" was their favorite book. Friends of mine has also stated that. My favorite novel was "The Magicians Nephew". I also was just reading the wikipedia article for "The Silver Chair" and noticed that one of the characters could be reworked once again to feature Tilda Swinton as the White Witch.

 

[Brian]

Actually I forgot that Eustace saves Jill from bullies at Experiment House but can't remember if this is part of their backstory or was in the novel.

They're running from the bullies when they transition to Narnia in the beginning of The Silver Chair.

The routing of the bullies...

Spoiler: End of The Silver Chair

... occurs when Caspian briefly returns with Jill and Eustace for that express purpose at the end of the book, and the bullies also get a glimpse of Aslan.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Yeah that's right. Thanks. I am feeling the urge to read these again now.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

In box office terms the recent sequel Dawn Treader may end up resembling the most is The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, which had a similar budget ($145 million), just squeaked over $100 million domestic, but was a major success in international markets, bringing it to a worldwide total of just over $400 million. Universal is developing another sequel in the Mummy series, so hopefully similar numbers would prod Fox to do the same in the Narnia series.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I was also reading on wikipedia that Fox and Walden have "The Silver Chair" optioned and that there hasn't been a decision yet to green light it. I suspect that we'll be waiting for a while if at all for an announcement. I'm guessing they're waiting to see what the Christmas box office is like.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

They'll probably wait until they see not only the total worldwide gross but also the DVD and Blu-ray revenues before making a decision.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ That's a more likely option for them yep.

 

[Saga]

if nothing else i believe that Dawn Treader will turn a nice profit with dvd/blu-ray sales.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I was thinking that as well. I know I'll be buying it. I don't have the previous two so I'll probably get a box set if one is released.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

I was thinking that as well. I know I'll be buying it. I don't have the previous two so I'll probably get a box set if one is released.

A box set with all three is unlikely since the series switched from Disney to Fox.