My two cents on Enterprise

[Nige86]

Hey everyone, it's good to be finally signed up and posting! I have been into Trek most of my life and I'm 23 now so a good few years under my belt! Like most of you when I first heard the idea behind Enterprise I had mixed feelings. And also like most of you I enjoyed a good chunk of it with the odd episode pushing the bar a little too far! So I had this thought today and it has probably been discussed here at length somewhere but I reckon it would have been a nice move to have made Enterprise in the alternate timeline we now see in the new film, obviously the Romulan storyline would not have worked but then again if they had taken this route, the new film would just follow on with a different plot set so many years after the final season of Enterprise!

Let me know your thoughts and hello once again!

 

[SFRabid]

Welcom to the forum. We all like to talk so join in. By the time I started watching Enterprise the time had passed for any chance of a follow-up movie. The executives pushed 24 seasons of ST out in a short time and then bailed when they hit the saturation point. That leaves me a bit torn. If they had waited a few years to release Enterprise it would have been better received, but if they waited I doubt they would have the same cast. The cast is my favorite part of ENT.

It might have been interesting to see a tie between "future guy" and ST XI.

 

[ChristopherPike]

I am not a big fan of alternate universes and would prefer that ENT remained a prequel... an earlier point in the chronology. In that regard, you can label me a purist... if the future influences the past, that's a pre-destination paradox - not an excuse to suddenly say Star Trek has shifted to another timeline. What I am most definitely not a purist over, is the production design, which I've long since accepted has to reflect the here and now. Unlike how the Producers of the new film felt, I don't need such detail to be part of the plot. The NX-01 is an extrapolation of how things may look... crossing modern day nuclear submarines with the interior of a NASA shuttle. I couldn't care less how the sets might appear more advanced than those designed in the 60's... Incidentally, I don't think they do simply because Kirk's bridge looked simpler. Who knows what fantastic abilities each sparsely positioned jelly button was capable of? Clearly they multi-task the plethora of switches found in Archer's day.

Having said that, I admit there's some potential in revealing Future Guy to be from the far future of the Abramsverse... a Vulcan/Romulan descendant keen to take pre-emptive action against Nero in someway. If conditions are harsh enough, even a Vulcan might be disgruntled enough to try and restore the past to a more positive outcome.

 

[Voyagerian]

I did read at wikipedia that Brannon Braga said that, had S 5 been upcoming, they were considering making FG be a Romulan...I don't know, Chris, if that was your exact thought prior.Some interesting points made there. You know the Romulans would have heard soon enough about a Romulan ship-one they certainly in the Abramsverse knew didn't exist!-and be more than curious about how and why ONE vessel destroyed 49 Imperial Klingon ships!!...I still feel STE was hitting the right notes-not that I was particularly critical before-in S4. I think they pulled the plug too soon, but then, a hundred people will tell me why it was rightfully done..oh well.I was, as a mem here once referred,in general terms, one of the 'hard-core' fans who stuck in with the gang all the way from Day One, as I have all the Treks...

 

[Count Zero]

I guess, I don't quite get what you mean, Nige86, since Enterprise is already part of the alternate universe of Trek XI, since the split happened in 2233. And also, it was Archer's dog Scotty vaporised. Or, to say it without many words:

 

[I am not Spock]

^The other crews weren't erased by the new movie. They exist, just in another timeline. The only difference is that Archer's adventures exist in BOTH timelines.

 

[Count Zero]

Yep, it's a comic exaggerating for comical reasons...

 

[Dell Yount]

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I am BOWLED-OVER by the level of conversation!
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Thank you for the opportunity to enjoy and participate
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[Tallis Rhul]

Is this where someone holds their hands up to the sky and says "Praise God for the gift of sarcasm"?

As far as the two cents go, I think Enterprise is fine as a prequel, and that technically an alternate universe version of the series would have to be completely alternate as the Abramsverse technically is built on the events that we've seen anyway.

And just to ensure that Dell isn't disappointed by the level of conversation I'd like to add this sentiment:

WHY CAN'T JANEWAY HAVE FLUFFY EYEBROWS?!

 

[cylkoth]

And just to ensure that Dell isn't disappointed by the level of conversation I'd like to add this sentiment:

WHY CAN'T JANEWAY HAVE FLUFFY EYEBROWS?!

Because Tuvok makes her shave them, so Neelix can garnish the leola root stew. ...

Scintillating conversation, indeed.

 

[The Castellan]

I am not a big fan of alternate universes and would prefer that ENT remained a prequel... an earlier point in the chronology. In that regard, you can label me a purist... if the future influences the past, that's a pre-destination paradox - not an excuse to suddenly say Star Trek has shifted to another timeline. What I am most definitely not a purist over, is the production design, which I've long since accepted has to reflect the here and now. Unlike how the Producers of the new film felt, I don't need such detail to be part of the plot. The NX-01 is an extrapolation of how things may look... crossing modern day nuclear submarines with the interior of a NASA shuttle. I couldn't care less how the sets might appear more advanced than those designed in the 60's... Incidentally, I don't think they do simply because Kirk's bridge looked simpler. Who knows what fantastic abilities each sparsely positioned jelly button was capable of? Clearly they multi-task the plethora of switches found in Archer's day.

Having said that, I admit there's some potential in revealing Future Guy to be from the far future of the Abramsverse... a Vulcan/Romulan descendant keen to take pre-emptive action against Nero in someway. If conditions are harsh enough, even a Vulcan might be disgruntled enough to try and restore the past to a more positive outcome.

Yes, I keep Enterprise in the original timeline. To me, both timelines had those events happening. Anyhow, I can easily give an example of the NX looking fine for it's time.

Look at a corvette from the 1950's, with all it's fins, chrome, and so on.

Look at a corvette from the 1990's, it's all smooth and without many features.

Same can be said for an NX and a Constitution respectively.

And I enjoyed the series very much, made Wensday nights in 2004 good.

 

[seigezunt]

I like the idea that ENT was already a little screwed up timewise because of the movie First Contact.

But I like that because then it allows the great novel Federation to remain in my continuity...

 

[ALF]

I think what was accomplished works well.