I say we put it up to a vote. TrekBBS decides: who's more incomprehensible, the Turing Test aspiring writer, or the talking cheetah?
You arrogant tosser. Nobody has the right to subject people's personalities to opinion polls.
I say we put it up to a vote. TrekBBS decides: who's more incomprehensible, the Turing Test aspiring writer, or the talking cheetah?
MostlyReally? I was under the impression that was what the entire American Presidential race was about![]()
That's it, you see what a room full of Star Trek nerds can accomplish based on a vague paragraph. Just think if we had a council at the white house or something, we could sit and solve world problems. I can see it now, " Mr. President Iran has just tested their first nuclear weapon, what should we do?" " Let the Picard sector handle it, they are good with diplomacy." " Mr. President, there's a cancer epidemic spreading across the country, what should we do?" " Let the Bones sector handle it, they are good with medical issues." "Mr. President what about global warming?" "Let the Data and Spock sector handle it, they are good with science." We'd be like the A Team of problem solving.
I think you should start a series of threads here to see how this council would perform... a simulation of sorts. 
Well, since you asked, and this thread seems to be going nowhere quickly...It never went beyond "we're doing one like that" or "that's a direction we don't want to go" but they were encouraging and thought the ideas were "on the right track".
What ideas were these and did they really do one like that?


this thread seems to be going nowhere quickly...
You know, I could actually see this as a movie idea.
The objective for the viewer is to work out what the protagonist does, and between vague dialog and nonspecific activities, there are little hints being dropped that you have to jigsaw together ... Something reminiscent of Memento [2000] in that you'd have to watch it three or four times to see how it all fits together.
You know...as I was reading your second sentence, I thought about Memento too!
Watch this guy doing random shit and having vague conversations for 2 hours and then guess what he does for a living. A mystery! Awesome!![]()
I'm sure Nolan could make it work.Starring Johnny Depp.

Anyone else hear Shatner in their head reading this line, maybe with some choppy hand gestures thrown in for emphasis... or is it just me?Well, as, I, Don't, seem, to,. communicate-with-you-very-well-I-obviously, don't know how to go about such a thing, do I?
Anyone else hear Shatner in their head reading this line, maybe with some choppy hand gestures thrown in for emphasis... or is it just me?Well, as, I, Don't, seem, to,. communicate-with-you-very-well-I-obviously, don't know how to go about such a thing, do I?
I say we put it up to a vote. TrekBBS decides: who's more incomprehensible, the Turing Test aspiring writer, or the talking cheetah?
You arrogant tosser. Nobody has the right to subject people's personalities to opinion polls.
Well that's a new one. Guess I should have yielded to my first instinct to put a "
" smiley after my tongue-in-cheek post. Or do you really think I actually believe he's a computter and I'm a talking cat?Well, since you asked, and this thread seems to be going nowhere quickly...It never went beyond "we're doing one like that" or "that's a direction we don't want to go" but they were encouraging and thought the ideas were "on the right track".
What ideas were these and did they really do one like that?
The script that got their attention was a Q story. He decides to show them how bad off they could really be, lost in the Delta Quadrant. He sends Voyager to a parallel universe where the ship was caught by the Borg and assimilated. what he didn't anticipate (being full of hubris) was that this Borg was a lot more advanced and had methods of capturing and controlling Q-beings. Meanwhile, a piece of the Borg ship embedded in Voyager's hull starts to assimilate the ship and crew.
Other ideas I pitched:
-- there were two versions of a Flying Dutchman story. Both involved the USS Endeavour, a ship identical to the original Enterprise, captained by a Dutchman. The crew has died and h'e automated the ship to run entirely from the bridge. He's trying to get home with the bodies of the dead trainee crew. One story had him protecting one species from another species, but the one he fighting think of revenge as a virtue, while the one he's protecting rate lying to others very highly - he was lied to and had no idea. The other story had him the Endeavour trappedn in a storm that followed him everywhere, punishing him for a crime committed long ago.
(When the image of the damaged ship comes up on the screen, the first letters you se in the name are 'En..e..vour' But those first four letters...
-- Voyager arrives at an alien station that s designed to repair ships. While Voyager is being repaired and the crew having R&R, they're trapped by the mercenaries that were chasing them (in a few different eps, Hazari?). It does bear a strong resemblance to an ENT story, but they took it in a different direction, and I don't particularly care.
--Voyager arrives on a world threatened by a tree. This tree it has to be said, is in effect a living Dyson sphere which will soon consume the planet. Turns out the plant has a level of awareness and takes the planet's population to live on the plant, on leaves (with gravity and atmosphere) the size of several continents. They weren't so fussed on that one because "there isn't enough for our people", which is fair enough.
-- After being scanned by alien radiation, Voyager's neural gel packs begin to 'think' - the ship becomes self aware. It's a battle between the crew and the new born mind, as well as the mercenaries, to reach some kind of resolution. This was one that they said, "that's not a direction we want to go in."
-- Voyager tries to rescue the survivors on a wrecked ship.. What wrecked the ship was the cargo, a dangerous menagerie (think Alien type aliens). Chakotay and Neelix get trapped, and they both have to use forgotten skills to escape. "We're doing something like this", but damned if I know which ep it was.
- Voyager is trapped in a Dyson-sphere sized ship that collects other ships and pits them against one another in gladiatorial combat for their entertainment. Can't remember what they said about this one.
-- The return of Dr Chaotica! And his new ally - Q! "We're doing a Q story."
-- Testing a new drive component sends Voyager to the Mirror Universe. Evil Janeway and her Borg slaves are on their way to Earth, and she thinks two Voyagers will be better than one. "That's not a direction we want to go."
-- Voyager stops at a deep space station, the boundary of an Empire about to be overrun by barbarians, and Janeway falls big time for the commander (I wanted her to have an interest non-crew related, for a change). She wants to stay and help, but he insists she takles Voyager and leaves - none will survive the attack. Has a coda of many years later, the commander getting a statue for his bravery. "Not a direction...".
-- Hazari and Vaadwaur team up to capture Voyager.
-- A Borg origin story. Voyager thrown back in time. Meet the original creators trying to develop an knowledge sharing application which goes wrong. Janeway tries to stop them, then tries to blow up the world.
-- A musical episode! Barclay is wigging out again, so the Doctor reprograms Barclay's holodeck Voyager program into an all-singing, all-dancing revue, that makes Barcllay realise he's being very foolish. Direction of course. I also wanted to see Tuvok let rip on an electric guitar, and Paris in a gold lame suit.
-- I wanted to do a humorous ep. This is my original notes for that: Travelling through a planetary system, Voyager finds itself the winner of a competition for the one billionth visitor to MallWorld, a world given over to the virtues and vices of eternal shopping. The prize is a huge wad of vouchers to buy whatever they want. Janeway and Torres haven’t done any shopping for six years, and Seven’ never been shopping, and so they go and do that funky thing. In the meantime the guys find shops with all the boy’s toys they can use: cars and ships, sports items, holographic girlie magazines, even seventy zillion types of beer.
It all comes undone when they overextend on the credit facility. The repayment system’s a bitch: items begin disappearing off Voyager as ‘interest’. They find it harder and harder to get clear of MallWorld but finally get away. On the way out, all the items they have purchased disintegrate; a security device built into MallWorld items like security tags in our shops.
There are a lot more, some not so good. It was a while ago.
That's it, you see what a room full of Star Trek nerds can accomplish based on a vague paragraph. Just think if we had a council at the white house or something, we could sit and solve world problems. I can see it now, " Mr. President Iran has just tested their first nuclear weapon, what should we do?" " Let the Picard sector handle it, they are good with diplomacy." " Mr. President, there's a cancer epidemic spreading across the country, what should we do?" " Let the Bones sector handle it, they are good with medical issues." "Mr. President what about global warming?" "Let the Data and Spock sector handle it, they are good with science." We'd be like the A Team of problem solving.
I'd like that.I think you should start a series of threads here to see how this council would perform... a simulation of sorts.
These forums can be the actual Holodeck sector. You know how they loved to run simulations of things in the holodeck.![]()
Sure wasn't intended for serious.The Mall World thing sounds sort of stupid, but still.

Well, since you asked, and this thread seems to be going nowhere quickly...It never went beyond "we're doing one like that" or "that's a direction we don't want to go" but they were encouraging and thought the ideas were "on the right track".
What ideas were these and did they really do one like that?
The script that got their attention was a Q story. He decides to show them how bad off they could really be, lost in the Delta Quadrant. He sends Voyager to a parallel universe where the ship was caught by the Borg and assimilated. what he didn't anticipate (being full of hubris) was that this Borg was a lot more advanced and had methods of capturing and controlling Q-beings. Meanwhile, a piece of the Borg ship embedded in Voyager's hull starts to assimilate the ship and crew.
Other ideas I pitched:
-- there were two versions of a Flying Dutchman story. Both involved the USS Endeavour, a ship identical to the original Enterprise, captained by a Dutchman. The crew has died and h'e automated the ship to run entirely from the bridge. He's trying to get home with the bodies of the dead trainee crew. One story had him protecting one species from another species, but the one he fighting think of revenge as a virtue, while the one he's protecting rate lying to others very highly - he was lied to and had no idea. The other story had him the Endeavour trappedn in a storm that followed him everywhere, punishing him for a crime committed long ago.
(When the image of the damaged ship comes up on the screen, the first letters you se in the name are 'En..e..vour' But those first four letters...
-- Voyager arrives at an alien station that s designed to repair ships. While Voyager is being repaired and the crew having R&R, they're trapped by the mercenaries that were chasing them (in a few different eps, Hazari?). It does bear a strong resemblance to an ENT story, but they took it in a different direction, and I don't particularly care.
--Voyager arrives on a world threatened by a tree. This tree it has to be said, is in effect a living Dyson sphere which will soon consume the planet. Turns out the plant has a level of awareness and takes the planet's population to live on the plant, on leaves (with gravity and atmosphere) the size of several continents. They weren't so fussed on that one because "there isn't enough for our people", which is fair enough.
-- After being scanned by alien radiation, Voyager's neural gel packs begin to 'think' - the ship becomes self aware. It's a battle between the crew and the new born mind, as well as the mercenaries, to reach some kind of resolution. This was one that they said, "that's not a direction we want to go in."
-- Voyager tries to rescue the survivors on a wrecked ship.. What wrecked the ship was the cargo, a dangerous menagerie (think Alien type aliens). Chakotay and Neelix get trapped, and they both have to use forgotten skills to escape. "We're doing something like this", but damned if I know which ep it was.
- Voyager is trapped in a Dyson-sphere sized ship that collects other ships and pits them against one another in gladiatorial combat for their entertainment. Can't remember what they said about this one.
-- The return of Dr Chaotica! And his new ally - Q! "We're doing a Q story."
-- Testing a new drive component sends Voyager to the Mirror Universe. Evil Janeway and her Borg slaves are on their way to Earth, and she thinks two Voyagers will be better than one. "That's not a direction we want to go."
-- Voyager stops at a deep space station, the boundary of an Empire about to be overrun by barbarians, and Janeway falls big time for the commander (I wanted her to have an interest non-crew related, for a change). She wants to stay and help, but he insists she takles Voyager and leaves - none will survive the attack. Has a coda of many years later, the commander getting a statue for his bravery. "Not a direction...".
-- Hazari and Vaadwaur team up to capture Voyager.
-- A Borg origin story. Voyager thrown back in time. Meet the original creators trying to develop an knowledge sharing application which goes wrong. Janeway tries to stop them, then tries to blow up the world.
-- A musical episode! Barclay is wigging out again, so the Doctor reprograms Barclay's holodeck Voyager program into an all-singing, all-dancing revue, that makes Barcllay realise he's being very foolish. Direction of course. I also wanted to see Tuvok let rip on an electric guitar, and Paris in a gold lame suit.
-- I wanted to do a humorous ep. This is my original notes for that: Travelling through a planetary system, Voyager finds itself the winner of a competition for the one billionth visitor to MallWorld, a world given over to the virtues and vices of eternal shopping. The prize is a huge wad of vouchers to buy whatever they want. Janeway and Torres haven’t done any shopping for six years, and Seven’ never been shopping, and so they go and do that funky thing. In the meantime the guys find shops with all the boy’s toys they can use: cars and ships, sports items, holographic girlie magazines, even seventy zillion types of beer.
It all comes undone when they overextend on the credit facility. The repayment system’s a bitch: items begin disappearing off Voyager as ‘interest’. They find it harder and harder to get clear of MallWorld but finally get away. On the way out, all the items they have purchased disintegrate; a security device built into MallWorld items like security tags in our shops.
There are a lot more, some not so good. It was a while ago.
Anyone else hear Shatner in their head reading this line, maybe with some choppy hand gestures thrown in for emphasis... or is it just me?Well, as, I, Don't, seem, to,. communicate-with-you-very-well-I-obviously, don't know how to go about such a thing, do I?
Well, we do NOW! And I gotta tell you - it makes the line alot more fun to read, too!![]()

That's happened to me about five hundred times in my life.
Well, maybe only 50 or so where I actually laid in bed for a day. But about 200 where I felt like giving up.
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